On Jan 11, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Louis Proyect wrote:

Teachers much prefer to deep lurk unless there is some non-teacher
interloper that disturbs their peace in which case Michael Perelman is
forced to act on their behalf.


I am not sure the above holds. I am one of the more prolific posters
on this list and far from a teacher -- I can't think of a better
candidate for a non-teacher interloper! And I am treated more kindly
on this list than on some others.

Re: the original question:

Charles already pointed out that we are the empire -- there is no
void. The other option is to take Chomsky's argument: look at the data
on the places we have intervened in:

* how have they fared after our intervention ("they" here broken down
by region, people/culture, etc)

* how has our behaviour matched our rhetoric and the principles
underlying that rhetoric (that these students probably subscribe to).

       --ravi

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