Greetings Economists, On Jan 12, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
why are these "givens"?
Doyle; Building big server farms is in the interest of Microsoft and Google, two of the more well known big interests in more data storage. Or Citibank, or big motion picture studios. Or research going toward orders of magnitude more data storage on the horizon. That is a given. Two - Interactive media for example video games as a growing market (as movies and tv decline), neural networks in image making for data mining (of images) to use data dynamically. Example Google buying world libraries, old media distributing movies on line, massive parallel games, satellite photos, etc. JD I don't get this at all, Doyle. You seem to be talking about what _should_ be. I wasn't. Doyle; Why do chip makers put multi-cores in their chips? Now. Is that because it should be? No because data interaction, in parallel, speeds up kinds of computing work while lowering energy consumption. The spread of super (aka high performance) computing into consumer products is happening now, not in the should be future. JD; I don't get this at all, Doyle. You seem to be talking about what _should_ be. I wasn't. Doyle, Just to remind you you started out talking about a homogenous culture because the current state of capitalism makes that when oppositely information technology goes toward complexity and diversity. Copying what is, for re-use and modification. JD ???? Doyle, A socialist project would record small languages and investigate their dynamics or practical uses for those people who made that language. JD; (I quote the interchange to put context upon this) JD writes, first: me:> [It's like the creation of a hybrid crop (either in the lab or in situ) that ] comes to dominate an ecological niche Doyle --
Ecological niches are very diverse and complex. The opposite of your comment. Not just commercially but in nature.
since when did I say anything about niches being anything but diverse and complex? Doyle; You site hybrids dominating a niche as produced from the lab which strikes me contrarily as a singular problem with how commercial agriculture creates monocultures. The use of genetic patents to control crops goes against the complex network structure of plant ecological niches. So I assume you meant something like that commercial hybrids violate in practice ecological niches. but in this case if you did mean commercial hybrids had to fit in complex niches my reading was wrong. JD; Maybe I'm stupid or my ancient brain has finally kicked the bucket. Could you please be more _concrete_ if you restate your argument? Doyle; rather than try articulate this better I'll cite a public example: http://www.physorg.com/news119276713.html Behind the scenes, tech firms mapping the world Two firms are racing to map the world as the Internet goes increasingly mobile with ever more sophisticated gadgets for people on the move. ...The data they stockpile turns up in mapping services offered by Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft, as the Internet titans expand "location- based" features far beyond simply providing directions to travelers. "We're mapping the world," John Bates of Tele Atlas told AFP. "In 3-D." A Tele Atlas minivan with eight rooftop cameras and a laser sensor was in a sea of mobile phones, personal navigation devices, and Internet- linked gizmos at the Consumer Electronics Show that ended Thursday. The cameras record a 360-degree view, making note of traffic signs and posted speed limits, while the laser makes detailed scans building facades and sizes. ... ...Tele Atlas's global fleet has mapped more than 205 countries and territories, according to company spokeswoman Erin Delaney. ... Doyle; Location based information 'paints' the landscape with information. So that one could look at a street with a mobile device and go back and back through weeks of time, months of time. In which small groups can paint the location with information that is interactive about the community that is there. Example a cultural center shows it's community activities for the public interest, or local history, or cultural talents, etc. Because the increase in information production opens the door to more information in location. thanks, Doyle Saylor
