gar...  I missed BOTH defcon 10 and BHB this year...  anyway, Regarding
changing the ROM, I was refering to using TFTP to lead a new Flash ROM,
which can be done remotely...  And Ron, am I understanding you to say that
JetDirect have telnet functionality built in?  Also, apoligies for thinking
this might be an original idea...  I really had never heard of it being done
to any stand alone printers...

Nick Jacobsen
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Nick Jacobsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: Using a Stand-Alone Network Printer as a network attack entry
point?


> Nick,
>  This idea has been discussed in great detail at Defcon 10, and numerous
> other venues. I'm surprised you have never heard of it before. In fact at
> Defcon 10 new tools and methods were discussed. There were 2 panels that
> dealt with it, one was called attacking embeded systems, and the other was
> called network devices. I suggest you get your hands on a copy of the CD
> that was distributed at defcon. It contains all the slides used in
> presentations, and a lot of tools, and references.
>
> Vlad G.
>
>  On Thu, 15 Aug 2002,
> Nick Jacobsen wrote:
>
> > Hi all...
> >     I came up with an idea, one that I've never heard discussed, of
possibly
> > modifying a stand-alone network printer (like most of the high-end
office
> > printers, hereafter referred to as a "SNP") to act as a full point to
point
> > proxy, or at least a simple pass through to the port and IP you specify
in
> > some sort of configuration.  The idea here would be to take a SNP and
modify
> > a ROM image for the specific printer to include the proxy functionality.
I
> > realize this could turn out to be quite difficult, but at the same time,
it
> > would provide a way into the internal network when no others are
available.
> > Any comments are most DEFINITELY welcome, flames less so, but if it's a
> > stupid idea, let me know...
> >
> > Nick Jacobsen
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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