America's selective memory loss on Ukraine

Posted: 07/21/2014 1:27 pm EDT Updated: 07/21/2014 4:59 pm EDT
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=167692#167692
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ivan-eland/americas-hypocrisy-on-ukr_b_5606510.html

Much finger-pointing has occurred on the downing of Malaysia flight MH-17 over separatist-held territory in Ukraine. The American media -- still reflexively anti-Russian even though the Cold War has been over for almost a quarter-century and heaping blame on Russia and its leader, Vladimir Putin, since even before his annexation of Crimea -- have gone hog wild with recrimination after the downing of the aircraft.

And Russia and Putin are easy targets. In America, our story line goes much like this: After the Cold War ended, the United States benevolently showered Russia with assistance, acceptance into the G-8 talkshop of industrial democracies, and "experts" on creating a democracy (I was on one of those trips), but the Russian people let the dour Vladimir Putin ruin our efforts to export democracy there by re-instituting autocratic rule. Americans feel rejected, because the Russians just didn't want to be like us. And with our usual assumed benevolence, we just don't understand why Russia is behaving in a "20th century manner," by annexing Crimea and funneling training and weapons to Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine, when the rest of the world, including America, has moved on to a new era in the next millennium. Americans -- always very ahistorical, even more so with the advent of 24-7-365 cable "news" -- have amnesia about any role the United States might have had in bringing U.S.-Russian relations to their current sad state of affairs.

After the Cold War ended, the then-democratizing Russia, still inducing suspicions in the West, was excluded from the expanding NATO and European Union. After the Berlin wall fell, in a verbal promise to then-Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev to coax him to agree to the reunification of Germany, then-President George H. W. Bush pledged to Gorbachev that NATO, a military alliance hostile to the Soviet Union during the Cold War, would not expand into the territory of the now defunct Soviet-led Warsaw Pact (that is, Eastern Europe). In violation of that promise, the outdated NATO alliance, instead of going the way of the Cold War, repeatedly expanded and is now on Russia's borders. In fact, during the latest crisis over Ukraine, the United States has reinforced forces near Russia and increased their "training" activity. In addition, since the end of the Cold War, the United States has been trying to win increased influence in the oil and gas-rich former Soviet Central Asian states on Russia's borders. The Cold War ended but the U.S. containment noose around Russia just moved eastward and northward toward a weaker Russia.

This U.S. tack was very unwise. After the Napoleonic Wars, at the Congress of Vienna, European nations welcomed France back into the community of European nations; a century with no European-wide war ensued. Yet the triumphalist behavior of the United States and NATO after the Cold War more resembled what the allies did to a defeated Germany after World War I; Germany was unfairly blamed for starting the war and required to pay reparations, thus leading to the rise of Adolf Hitler and World War II. The United States keeping post-Cold War Russia out of Europe and humiliating it, instead of being more inclusive, has made Putin's nationalism resonate in Russia.

So Russia has experienced a shrinking protective buffer in surrounding areas. But isn't such a protective buffer so last century? To the Russians, who know history all too well, not in the least. In the past, for example, Russia has been invaded by Napoleonic France and Nazi Germany, and it lost a staggering 25 million people in World War II -- with total dead a quantum leap above that of any other country. The Russians see their critical buffer zone eroding and are trying to salvage what they can of it. For Russia, Ukraine has always been the crown jewel of Eastern Europe and is very important economically for Russia. Prior to a coup induced by street protests (not the way a democracy is supposed to work), a Russian-friendly government existed in Ukraine. Now that that is gone, Russia's unacceptable annexation of Crimea and military aid to the Russian separatists in the eastern part of the country should at least be put in perspective. Furthermore, U.S. hypocrisy in criticizing Russia for such assistance to shore up its withering buffer zone is nothing short of amazing.

I believe that Latin American countries would say that the United States' Monroe Doctrine is still alive in a U.S. sphere of influence that consists of the entire Western Hemisphere. And fairly recently, the United States decided to help the Kosovo Liberation Army rip off a province of Kosovo from Serbia, a traditional ally of a weakened Russia. Also, Russia felt double crossed by the Americans when the West overthrew Muammar Gaddafi of Libya after getting the Russians to vote for a United Nations Security Council Resolution that only allowed military actions for humanitarian reasons to save the lives of Libyan rebels. Finally, the CIA has attempted to aid many rebellions around the world, far from the U.S. sphere of influence in the Western Hemisphere -- even perhaps in Ukraine's street protests against the former pro-Russian government, which is not out of the realm of possibility.

In Ukraine, one other parallel exists with World War I. One of the events that led to the unnecessary U.S. entry into World War I was the German torpedoing of the British passenger ship Lusitania, killing almost 1,200 people, including 128 Americans. Yet the German embassy in the United States had put an ad in newspaper warning Americans not to sail on the Lusitania and the ship was carrying munitions through a declared war zone.

The Malaysian aircraft shot down was civilian, but like the Lusitania, it was unbelievably traversing a war zone (regardless of who you want to win the war in eastern Ukraine). Unless it can be proven that the Ukrainian separatists or the Russians shot down the plane intentionally (which is doubtful, given that it would be in neither party's interest to do so, Ukrainian-released communications among the separatists indicating surprise that the aircraft was civilian, and the Russian experience of heavy international fallout from the downing of a Korean airliner during the Cold War in the 1980s), there is not much substance to the cries of "war crime" in the West. It is the Ukrainian government's fault for an incredible failure to completely close its airspace to civilian airline traffic (some other airlines had wisely rerouted their planes anyway). The separatists or Russians may have been incompetent in shooting down a civilian plane, but incompetence can happen in the chaos of war.

And the hypocrisy of U.S. foreign policy -- famous in the world for criticizing other countries for the same things it has done -- is again on display. Do Americans remember the Iranian civilian airliner the world's most sophisticated U.S. Aegis air defense system blew out of the sky, without an apology, in the Persian Gulf during U.S. meddling in the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s on behalf of Saddam Hussein's Iraq? Of course not, because the sad fact is that most Americans don't care about history.

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MH17 Shot Down: This Is Not The First Time
By Tanvi Nalin | Jul 19, 2014 | 1 Comment
<http://www.youngisthan.in/world/mh17-shot-down-this-is-not-the-first-time/8259>http://www.youngisthan.in/world/mh17-shot-down-this-is-not-the-first-time/8259
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#MH17 Shot Down: This Is Not The First Time

In a new twist to the Malaysian Airlines MH17 crash story, the Ukraine has accused pro-Russian rebels of trying to destroy evidence of "international crimes" at the crash site of a Malaysia Airlines plane.

The Ukrainian government has said that the rebels led by Russia were preventing international representatives and its own experts from starting their investigation.

The Boeing 777 was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur. It is believed flight MH17 crashed after being hit by a surface-to-air missile fired from a Buk launcher from rebel-held area in east Ukraine on Thursday. All 298 people on board died.

The plane was carrying 192 Dutch nationals (including one with dual US citizenship), 44 Malaysians (including 15 crew), 27 Australians, 12 Indonesians and 10 Britons (including one with dual South African citizenship), four Germans, four Belgians, three from the Philippines, and one each from Canada and New Zealand.

It is believed that nearly 100 HIV/AIDS scientists, activists, policy makers and consultants lost their lives in the tragic accident as they were headed to a conference in Melbourne, Australia.

While it is a terrible news and puts forth questions on the world peace initiatives, it is not the first time that a plane has been shot down. Here is a list of such cases:

* Libyan Arab Airlines Flight 114 -- On February 21, 1973, the Libyan Airlines Boeing 727-200 plane was shot down by Israeli fighters when it strayed into the airspace of the Sinai Desert, then under Israeli control.It was believed that the pilots got lost due to bad weather and equipment failure over northern Egypt, resulting in the plane entering Israeli-controlled airspace over the Sinai desert. After firing warning shots and giving signals to land, two Israeli fighter jets shot down the plane. Out of 113 people on board, only five, including the co-pilot, survived.

* Korean Air Lines Flight 007 -- On September 1, 1983, 239 people aboard a Korean Air Lines flight bound from New York to Seoul were killed when the passenger jet was shot down by Soviet fighters during the Cold War. KAL Flight 007 had veered off course and into Soviet territory, and pair of fighter jets was dispatched to intercept the perceived intruder. U.S. Rep. Larry McDonald of Georgia was among the passengers. The downing produced a giant outcry at the time, though the full facts did not become known until after the Cold War's end.

* Iran Air Flight 655 -- On July 3, 1988, Dubai bound Iran Air Airbus A300 was shot down by the USS Vincennes above the volatile Persian Gulf. All 290 passengers and crew aboard were killed. The United States said the Navy ship had been exchanging fire with Iranian ships and mistook the passenger jet for an Iranian F-14 fighter jet that had been sold to Iran before the 1979 revolution.

Iran condemned the incident, calling it a "criminal act", an "atrocity" and a "massacre", while the US insisted it was a misunderstanding. The case led Iran to begin legal proceedings against the US in the International Court of Justice in 1996. The American government later compensated the families of victims.

* Transair Georgia -- A total of 136 people died when three Tupolev civilian airliners belonging to Transair Georgia were hit by rebel missiles and gunfire in the breakaway region of Abkhazia during its war of independence with Georgia.

The first plane, a T-134 flying from Russia, was struck on approach to Abkhazia's Sukhumi airport on 21 September. The jet crashed into the Black Sea, claiming the lives of all five crew members and 22 passengers.

The following day, a T-154 was shot down while attempting to land at Sukhumi airport. The attack killed 108 of the 132 people on board.

On 23 September, passengers were boarding an aircraft at Sukhumi when it was struck and caught fire, leaving one crew member dead.

* Siberian Airlines Flight 1812 -- On October 4, 2001, a Siberian Airlines Tupelov 154 headed from Tel Aviv, Israel, to Novosibirsk, Russia, was shot down and plunged into the Black Sea, killing all 78 aboard, most of them Russian-born Israelis. The Ukrainian military denied at first but later admitted its military mistakenly shot down the plane during a training exercise.

* Cathay Pacific Airways C-54, July 1954 -- On 23 July 1954 a Cathay Pacific C-54 Skymaster carrying 19 passengers and crew was flying from Bangkok to Hong Kong when it was shot down by a mainland Chinese Army fighter plane off the coast of Hainan Island. Ten people died. China said it had mistaken the plane for a military aircraft on an attack mission.

So many innocent lives are lost when a war is waged against one country by the other. In the name of revolution, separatist tendencies have been coming to the fore and disturbing the peace balance of the world.

The question is how many more lives will have to sacrificed before we come to our senses?
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Deadliest plane crashes in recent history
Some of the world's worst air accidents since 1977
<http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/30/world-plane-crashes>http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/30/world-plane-crashes

www.theguardian.com, Tuesday 30 June 2009 09.37 BST
30 June 2009: Yemenia Airbus A310 en route to the Comoros islands crashes in the Indian Ocean - 153 people are on board and only one survives, a 14-year-old girl pulled from the sea.

1 June 2009: Air France Airbus A330 runs into thunderstorms over the Atlantic after leaving Brazil and disappears - all 228 people on board are killed.

17 July 2007: Tam Airlines flight 3045 crashes on landing during rain in Sao Paulo. All 187 on board killed.

19 February 2003: Iranian Revolutionary Guard military plane crashes into a mountain - 275 dead.

25 May 2002: China Airlines Boeing 747 breaks apart midair and crashes into the Taiwan Strait - 225 dead.

12 November 2001: American Airlines Airbus A300 crashes after takeoff from JFK airport into the New York City borough of Queens - 265 dead, including people on the ground.

30 January 2000: Kenya Airways jet (Airbus A310) crashes in sea shortly after take-off from Abidjan, Ivory Coast. 169 dead.

31 October 1999: EgyptAir Boeing 767 crashes off Nantucket; the NTSB blames actions by the co-pilot - 217 dead.

3 September 1998: Swissair flight 111 from New York to Geneva crashes in sea south-west of Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, following fire in cockpit. All 229 passengers and crew killed.

16 February 1998: China Airlines Airbus A300 crashes on landing at airport in Taipei, Taiwan - 203 dead.

26 September 1997: Garuda Indonesia Airbus A300 crashes near airport in Medan, Indonesia - 234 dead.

6 August 1997: Korean Air Boeing 747-300 crashes on landing in Guam - 228 dead.

12 November 1996: Saudi Boeing 747 collides with Kazakh cargo plane near New Delhi - 349 dead.

17 July 1996: TWA Boeing 747 explodes and crashes into the Atlantic off Long Island, New York - 230 dead.

8 January 1996: 350 people die when a Russian-built Antonov-32 cargo plane crashes into a crowded market in the centre of the Zairean capital, Kinshasa.

6 June 1994: 160 people killed as Chinese airliner crashes minutes after take-off from Xian. Russian manufactured Tu-154 involved.

26 April 1994: China Airlines Airbus A300 crashes on landing at Nagoya Airport in Japan - 264 dead.

11 July 1991: All 261 people on board a chartered Canadian Nationair DC-8 carrying Muslim pilgrims back to Nigeria are killed when it crashes in flames at Jeddah airport.

12 December 1985: Arrow Air DC-8 crashes after takeoff from Newfoundland, Canada - 256 dead.

12 August 1985: Japan Air Lines Boeing 747 crashes into a mountainside after losing part of its tail fin - 520 dead in the world's worst single-plane disaster.

19 August 1980: Saudi Tristar makes emergency landing in Riyadh and bursts into flames - 301 dead.

28 November 1979: Air New Zealand DC-10 on a sightseeing trip crashes on Mount Erebus in the Antarctic, killing all 257 passengers and crew.

25 May 1979: American Airlines DC-10 crashes after takeoff from Chicago's O'Hare Airport - 275 dead.

1 January 1978: Air India Boeing 747 crashes into the ocean after takeoff from Mumbai - 213 dead.

27 March 1977: KLM 474, Pan American Boeing 747 collide on runway in Tenerife, Canary Islands - 583 dead in world's worst airline disaster.

3 March 1974: Turkish Airlines DC-10 en route to London crashes in a forest near Paris, killing all 345 people on board, nearly 200 of them British.

Source: World Almanac






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