On 01/09/2011 1:55 AM, stephane eranian wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Corey Ashford
> <cjash...@linux.vnet.ibm.com>  wrote:
>> On 08/25/2011 07:19 AM, stephane eranian wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sorry for late reply.
>>>
>>> The current support for mmaped count is broken on perf_event x86.
>>> It simply does not work. I think it only works on PPC at this point.
>> Just as an aside, you can access the counter registers from user space
>> on Power (aka PPC) machines, but because the kernel is free to schedule
>> the events onto whatever counters that meet the resource constraints,
>> it's not at all clear which hardware counter to read from user space,
>> and in fact, with event rotation, the counter being used can change from
>> one system tick till the next.
>>
>> If you program a single event, you can be guaranteed that it won't move
>> around, but you still will have to guess or somehow determine which
>> hardware counter is being used by the kernel.
>>
> Yes, and that's why they have this 'lock' field in there.It's not really a 
> lock
> but rather a generation counter. You need to read it before you attempt to
> read and you need to check it when you're done reading. If the two values
> don't match then the counter changed and you need to retry. And changes
> means it may have moved to a different counter.
This protocol is actually documented pretty well in 
<linux/perf_event.h>, too. Read the lock, read the index, read hw 
counter[index-1], read lock again to verify.

> But the key problem here is the time scaling. In case you are multiplex
> you need to be able to retrieve time_enabled and time_running to scale
> the count. But that's not exposed, thus it does not work as soon as you
> have multiplexing. Well, unless you only care about deltas and not the
> absolute values.
Doesn't perf_event_mmap_page expose both those, also protected by the 
generation counter? Or are you saying the kernel doesn't actually update 
those fields right now?

Ryan


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