Both Test::Simple and Test::More are in bleadperl and will be in 5.8.0. For normal users of the module, this isn't really all that big a thing, since you can just get it from CPAN anyway. What it does mean is the core library tests can now be written using these testing libraries instead of the ad hoc systems or Test.pm mostly in use. lib/Carp.t was just rewritten to use Test::More, I'd like to see others follow. -- Michael G. Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl6 Quality Assurance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kwalitee Is Job One <mendel> ScHWeRnsChweRN sChWErN SchweRN SCHWErNSChwERnsCHwERN sChWErn ScHWeRn schweRn sCHWErN schWeRn scHWeRN SchWeRN scHWErn SchwErn scHWErn ScHweRN sChwern scHWerN scHWeRn scHWerN ScHwerN SChWeRN scHWeRn SchwERNschwERn SCHwern sCHWErN SCHWErN sChWeRn