On 19 Sep 2006, at 10:36, David Cantrell wrote:

Adrian Howard wrote:

Yeah - it's something I've noticed over the last year or so. I'm talking to people less about "you should write tests", and much more about "you should write /good/ tests".

What do people think are *good* tests?
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Belated response. For me good tests suites:

* are good code (i.e. DRY, well factored, intention revealing, etc.)
* encourage good design (ala TDD)
* fail for bugs, but not refactoring
* only fail for bugs in the thing they're testing
* don't depend on the order the tests are run in

The antithesis of good test suites are when I come across people taking a big bad ball of mud, and then spends three months adding copy 'n' paste tests until they have 100% statement coverage.

Because they know tests are good - and 100% statement coverage is extra double plus good!

Unfortunately what they end up with is a test suite that is as brittle as fuck. Change any damn thing - even if you're fixing stuff - and half the test suite falls over. Their wonderful test suite either ends up being completely ignored, or making change for the better harder.

Cheers,

Adrian

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