On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 02:21:23PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > On Sep 4, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Andrew Moore wrote: > >Do these two things help make the CPAN Testers stuff more useful or at > >least less annoying for you? > The only thing that will make CPAN Testers less annoying at this point > is if I am ASKED WHAT I WANT, instead of being told "Here's what we're > doing and dammit, you should like it!"
You've already made it perfectly clear to me that you have no interest in receiving reports at present. That's why I stopped sending them to you. I'll do the same for anyone. You don't have to like it. What you do have to accept, however, is that like just about everything else perlish the systems in place grew in an ad-hoc fashion because us perl programmers have an annoying tendency to "just fucking do it". We see a problem, we solve it. We see something that we think needs doing, we do it. And then people build further ad-hoccery on top of that, and so on. That's why we have the regrettable situation *currently* that you are asked to opt out instead of opting in. Sorry, but that's the way it is at the moment. Want another example of ad-hoc JFDI being bad? Schwern can "break CPAN". He's done it at least once recently. It got fixed because the people affected told him. It would have been better if he'd passed his changes to a release manager who would make sure they were all thoroughly tested against the entire CPAN before release. You may have noticed that when the CPAN-testers screw up *and we're told about it* things get fixed too. If I send a bogus report, I want to know, and then if it's within my power I'll fix it and if it's not I'll pass it up the chain to the right person. What I'm not willing to do, however, is to manually check every report and ensure perfection that way. Why? Because it takes too long, and I have a job and a life. And anyway, I'd still make mistakes - and even if I don't make mistakes, people will still think I have. Everyone makes mistakes when they're doing a boring job, doubly so without the prospect of reward. So anyone who insists that I read every report I send to them will just get no reports from me. Again, all you have to do to stop me sending you reports is *tell me to stop sending you reports*. -- David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world comparative and superlative explained: <Huhn> worse, worser, worsest, worsted, wasted
