i want to thank all of you for your helping me produce damian's AOOP class. it was a great success with 29 students and no one seemed to be way over their heads. in fact several commented on how strong the prerequisite list was so they knew they could take the class and not be held back by newbies and slower students. damian said the level of the class was very high and he even finished a little early and we converted into a general discussion about the perl community and where damian and YAS and others can help. we plan on offering this and/or other classes in boston next year. since yapc::boston is being quietly touted, those classes may be around the same time to simplify damian's travel. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman --------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------- http://www.sysarch.com SYStems ARCHitecture and Stem Development ------ http://www.stemsystems.com Learn Advanced Object Oriented Perl from Damian Conway - Boston, July 10-11 Class and Registration info: http://www.sysarch.com/perl/OOP_class.html