On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 10:43:13PM -0800, brian d foy wrote:
> 
> i actually mean proven - as in there is evidence that they actually

What sort of evidence are you thinking of?  I was very afraid 'proven' 
meant: 'has been to all the conferences (and bought rounds)', 'written books', 
'got lots of modules in CPAN', ... 'one of the in-clique', etc.

I have been waiting to see how this discussion developed before 
joining in and/or submitting contact details to the sites.

_Evidence_ I can provide!
-- 
Chris Benson

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