A bit off-target, but possibly of use....

I'm on the board of a local SIG of the ACM.  I moved some of the "member
data" from Excel to Access (guess that was a step in the right direction)
before realizing that I was heading down the trail of reinventing a whole
suite of member management tools.  As I'm looking around, I'm noticing that
a lot of the features in tools that we are *not* interested in would be
helpful for what you *are* interested in.   Here's the kinds of things that
"groups" (e.g. church groups, gyms, professional associations, etc.) have to
do to maintain their "membership".  Although you're coming at it from a
"business" perspective and might be tempted to look at "customer
relationship management" tools (CRM floods the market), looking at it from
an "event management" perspective may help you:

  - event calendars
  - member profile management
  - online registration and payment
  - automatic email notifications (date- and finance-based)
  - reports sliced every way to Sunday 
  - ID badges (name tags)
  - group email (for many definitions of 'group')
  - web-hosted or PC-based (we want collaboration on hosted, but you may be
OK with pc-based)
  - TODO lists
  - non-member contacts (conference halls, hotels, etc..)
  - discussion forums
  - newsletter distribution
  - document downloading
  - mail-merge

What synchronicity...  The president and I are meeting to discuss this kind
of software in about 2 hours, so I have some fresh in my brain.  Do a search
for "event management software" or "group/club management software".  We're
looking at companies like memberize.com, regonline.com, clubexpress.com,
irm-systems.com.  

I'm only about 2 hours into the research, so YMMV.  Also, there is a huge
cost spread.  I just called a company who has an entry price of $125,000!
Their web page looked very similar to a $5 per member per year site.  I'm
looking to see if our grassroots solution could be replicated in other SIG's
around the world, but he's got a top-down approach and I've got a bottom-up
budget.

When we've done online registrations in the past, we had options of paying a
percentage of the fee or a flat rate per registrant.  When we did the math,
the break even was at about 100 conferees.

Also, watch out for their target group size.  We tried a disasterous
software package for our most recent tutorial.  The politics were the
deciding factor there; she pushed it through, said she'd shepherd it, then
vanished.  It was release 1.0.  Enough said?  The 1.0 issues aside, we found
out that it was more tuned to a large conference with a dedicated, central
contact person who knew the software (i.e. a power user).  There are other
tools that are more tuned to collaboration and "baby speak".

Let us know how your searching goes.  I'll report back, too, if I find that
this genre of software may be useful.



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Michael R. Wolf
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacinta Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:45 PM
> To: perl-trainers@perl.org
> Subject: Bookings management software
> 
> G'day everyone,
> 
> I have a question for those on the list who run publicly enrolable
> courses.  How
> do you handle your bookings?
> 
> At the moment we use a combination of nms-formmail, RT, LaTeX, a wiki and
> memory.  It works but is time consuming.  I've done a few web searches but
> I
> haven't found any course booking software which matches what I'm looking
> for
> which has:
> 
>       * automatic invoice generation (which I can then edit if I want
> before
>         printing)
>       * automatic cover letter and email generation (again editable)
>       * various status levels: entered into accounting software, paid,
>         processed, payment reminder sent...
>       * attendance lists
>       * book lists (we give out free books as part of our early bird)
>       * customisable reports; particularly ones which estimate course
>         profitability, and ones which can be used as reminders to print
> course
>         manuals, order books, confirm facilities etc.
> 
> etc.  I'm considering writing my own as a good way to learn either Jifty
> or
> Catalyst, but I thought I'd ask to see if anyone on here had a working
> solution
> already.  It doesn't have to do everything, as long as I can customise it.
> Failing that, what would you like to see in such a tool?
> 
>       Jacinta
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