On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 05:34:44PM -0700, David E. Wheeler wrote:
> So the UTF8 flag is enabled, and yet it has "\303\204\302\215" in it. What is
> that crap?
That's octal notation, which I think Dump() uses for any byte greater than 127
and for control characters, so that it can output pure ASCII.
That sequence is only four bytes:
mar...@smokey:~ $ perl -MEncode -MDevel::Peek -e '$s = "\303\204\302\215";
Encode::_utf8_on($s); Dump $s'
SV = PV(0x801038) at 0x80e880
REFCNT = 1
FLAGS = (POK,pPOK,UTF8)
PV = 0x2012f0 "\303\204\302\215"\0 [UTF8 "\x{c4}\x{8d}"]
CUR = 4 <----------------------------------------------- four bytes
LEN = 8
mar...@smokey:~ $
The logical content of the string follows in the second quote:
> [UTF8 "<p>Tomas Laurinavi\x{c4}\x{8d}ius</p>"]
That's valid UTF-8.
> my $str = '<p>Tomas Laurinavi????ius</p>';
In source code, I try to stick to pure ASCII and use \x escapes -- like Dump()
does.
my $str = "<p>Tomas Laurinavi\x{c4}\x{8d}ius</p>"
However, because those code points are both representable as Latin-1, Perl
will create a Latin-1 string. If you want to force its internal encoding to
UTF-8, you need to do additional work.
mar...@smokey:~ $ perl -MDevel::Peek -e '$s = "\x{c4}"; Dump $s;
utf8::upgrade($s); Dump $s'
SV = PV(0x801038) at 0x80e870
REFCNT = 1
FLAGS = (POK,pPOK)
PV = 0x2012e0 "\304"\0
CUR = 1
LEN = 4
SV = PV(0x801038) at 0x80e870
REFCNT = 1
FLAGS = (POK,pPOK,UTF8)
PV = 0x2008f0 "\303\204"\0 [UTF8 "\x{c4}"]
CUR = 2
LEN = 3
mar...@smokey:~ $
> Confused and frustrated,
IMO, to get UTF-8 right consistently in a large Perl system, you need to
understand the internals and you need Devel::Peek at hand. Perl tries to hide
the details, but there are too many ways for it to fail silently. ("perl -C",
$YAML::Syck::ImplicitUnicode, etc.)
Marvin Humphrey
