Indeed he has...

What events are missing - not sure - I'm in the process of tiding up my app,
and large parts of it I would like to run under NEM - I'll create a bug
report for missing events as I find them.

cheers,

jez.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Pick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jez White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<perl-win32-gui-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] Accelerator bug?


> Aldo's been silent for a while.
>
> Exactly what events are missing? We're running out of space in the NEM to
> add new events (checking if events are set is based on a 32-bit mask, and
> most of the bits are used), but I'm sure that's easy to get round.
>
> The NEM is probably faster than the OEM, though I've not run any
benchmarks.
>
> I would no longer even consider using the OEM, having looked at the code
for
> it (mind you I'm hardly in a position to comment on code clarity :) ).
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jez White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Stephen Pick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <perl-win32-gui-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] Accelerator bug?
>
>
> >
> > I'de like to use NEM more - but I am finding some events missing. So it
> the
> > NEM slightly "faster" as well?
> >
> > Aldo was talking about another model - is this just an enhancement of
NEM?
> >
> > jez.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Stephen Pick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <perl-win32-gui-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:58 AM
> > Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Accelerator bug?
> >
> >
> > Yes, I use the NEM heavilly. The OEM is a really ugly way of doing
> > things and basing things on references is much safer and much more
> > elegant. Every other perl module that needs to do callbacks uses
> > references (see.. well.. anything, err, LWP for example). This is
> > because you can check that references are safe to call, whereas with
> > non-references you have to eval() and then you open up security holes.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > > Glenn W Munroe
> > > Sent: 20 January 2004 10:52
> > > To: perl-win32-gui-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Accelerator bug?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just out of interest, is anybody really using the NEM? Are there any
> > > major advantages to it? I admit it is quite elegant to have a one-line
> > > subroutine defined as an -event option, but in practice, most event
> > > handlers will consist of more code than I would like to
> > > define that way
> > > and the handler would just end up being another subroutine call.
> > >
> > > IMHO, the two major advances in this module recently have been
> > > accelerators and hooks (I'd say we're approaching GUI
> > > nirvana), so if at
> > > least one of them doesn't work in NEM, that knocks it on the head for
> > > me.
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > Glenn Linderman
> > > Sent: Monday, 19 January, 2004 21:52
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: perl-win32-gui-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] Accelerator bug?
> > >
> > > Glenn,
> > >
> > > Sorry for the delay, I was not monitoring this email address
> > > from 1/15
> > > until now.
> > >
> > >
> > > On approximately 1/16/2004 8:28 AM, came the following characters from
> > > the keyboard of Glenn W Munroe:
> > > > Glenn,
> > > >
> > > > I haven't really used the NEM much yet, but when I knocked
> > > up a small
> > > > test script this morning with the new model I found that
> > > accelerators
> > > > didn't work. Had you noticed this or can you confirm it? If
> > > so, is it
> > > a
> > > > bug with accelerators themselves or some underlying "feature" of the
> > > > system?
> > >
> > > Indeed, I think it is just a missing feature in NEM.  When I
> > > looked at
> > > the code inside Win32::GUI for accelerators, I was able to figure out
> > > and fix accelerators for OEM, but I think NEM has much more code that
> > > simply isn't there for accelerators.  This is one reason I am still
> > > using OEM.  (OEM = Old Event Model, when it takes a break
> > > from meaning
> > > Original Equipment Manufacturer :) )
> > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Glenn Munroe
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Glenn -- http://nevcal.com/
> > > ===========================
> > > The best part about procrastination is that you are never bored,
> > > because you have all kinds of things that you should be doing.
> > >
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