I really appreciate your comments.

Fortunately I have a spare pc that I am not using very
much right now.  It has windows 98.

I have been very hesitant at putting apache or similar
on it b/c of the learning curve thing.

It looks like I am headed that direction though.

What about "renting space" on a linux system?

Wouldn't that reduce some of the work.  Instead of
haveing my own server, use someone elses?

I do have apache on windows to test webpages on my pc
without sending them to the internet which is very
helpful!!


Again, thanks for the comments ... I appreciate
them...in fact it helps a little......before I jump
off to the deep in ....

:) :)


--- Martin Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My advise is run a linux machine with an Apache
> webserver and use Mod_Perl.
> How scalable do you want it? How scalable does it
> really need to be? How
> about security?
> 
> I have worked for two different companies in the
> last 5 years.the first used
> HP-UX and Sun Solaris and the latter Linux. I would
> go with Linux any day. I
> have seen fewer Problems under Linux (which after
> all is free - ish), than I
> did under Other UNIX Machines (perhaps 2 years newer
> version of Solaris and
> HP-UX are equally as stable, but I wouldn't know).
> Most people quote
> reliablity and support as excuses for not using
> Linux. They are usually
> misinformed as to the maturity of Linux.
> 
> It also means that whenever you upgrade or install
> any software on Linux,
> you don't have to reboot:-)
> 
> I'm not sure if postgreSQL is available for Windows.
>  Depending on what sort
> of machine you have to run as your webserver would
> depend on whether I would
> recommend using a seperate machine for your database
> and another for your
> webserver. Also it depends on how many hits your are
> expecting on your
> webserver. Unless you are expecting more than 2000
> hits an hour I think
> you'd be ok with everything running on 1 Linux
> machine which wouldn't have
> to be anything more than a decent desktop PC.
> 
> Why Varchar? Mysql Blob types (can contain any char)
> are allowed to have
> index's on them, so speed hasn't been an issue
> there.
> 
> My concern is if you've never used Unix (or Linux)
> before then a do it
> yourself learning curve can take a while, but There
> are many,many,many
> people out there who will help you out, and Many
> people learnt Unix without
> anything else but a good book and a Jump in the deep
> end!!!!! Just find the
> right mailing lists. (This probably is true for
> Windows too though, to be
> fair).
> 
> Once you've got your website up and running, you
> will then have other things
> to worry about. The main one is Webserver Log Files.
> These can be very large
> (if you're sites famous), and Getting these files
> off there can be a pain
> because MS FTP Server isn't very good at handling
> large downloads. If you
> wish to have your hits Accreditted you will have to
> reformat those log
> files. Again better not done on the same machine as
> your webserver.
> 
> You also need to think about how you will publish
> your website. Will you
> manually create the web pages? Will you write your
> own content publishing
> system? Will you use a Software Package. That's up
> to you, but most windows
> based packages will happilly write to linux Machines
> (just mount the linux
> drive under windows) so you could even have 1
> desktop machine for your
> personal use and web publishing, and a seperate
> linux machine to process the
> website.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Regards
> 
> Marty
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Investor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday 03 January 2002 17:05
> > To: Martin Moss;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: website db & perl || RE: OT: Re: A
> website, perl
> > powered...but....MS Access or Mysql ??
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the comments.
> >
> > yes I am currently on windows platform.
> >
> > The 255 length is for the varchar type.
> >
> > I guess i will have to look into PostgreSQL.
> >
> > I would be willing to learn another operating
> system
> > if it would get the job done & is stable.  B/c I
> am in
> > the intial stages of developing a website.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Martin Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Currently I am basically set up to use perl
> and an
> > > > access db.  But I understand that access has a
> > > limited
> > > > simultaneous user support.  I guess a person
> could
> > > set
> > > > up several databases with different dsns &
> perl
> > > > conditionals, but that would double and triple
> > > space
> > > > on a server.
> > > >
> > > > I am considering mysql b/c it supposedly is a
> bit
> > > more
> > > > supportive for simultaneous users, and I
> noticed
> > > that
> > > > mysql fields has a length of 1 - 255.  I think
> > > some of
> > > > my fields will be greater than 255.  Do you
> guys
> > > agree
> > > > with the 255 length limitation?
> > > >
> > > I think you are misinformed. Mysql has a BLOB
> type
> > > which can take a much
> > > larger Field Length.
> > > Access and Perl don't work comfortably together
> in
> > > my experience.
> > >
> > > > Does anyone have a solution in mind?
> > > >
> > > > I know this may be little off subject for
> perl,
> > > but I
> > > > am a perl scripter & will utilize perl, I am
> > > having a
> > > > little difficulty selecting the right db to
> use
> > > right
> > > > now.
> > > > :)   :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > You didn't specify if you are using UNIX or
> Windows,
> > > I assume you're using
> > > Windows. Do you have a UNIX machine available to
> run
> > > your Database, would
> > > probably relieve you of some of the headaches
> you
> > > would have, but unless you
> > > were familliar with Unix would probably
> introduce
> > > more.
> > >
> > > Under UNIX:-
> > > I have used MySQL farely extensively under
> Linux,
> > > But Recently I've been
> > > hearing good things about PostgreSQL. I cannot
> back
> > > them up with evidence of
> > > my own, but I'm sure others here can. I've heard
> sub
> > > selects are supported
> > > in PostgreSQL But know they aren't available in
> > > MySQL. I've also seen Large
> > > MySQL Tables (MYISAM Type, of size approx 1GB)
> > > become corrupted easily and
> > > regularly however These have all been
> recoverable
> > > errors.
> > >
> > > Check out some Earlier posts today which are
> also
> 
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=====
Regards,

Investorclb

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