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Moin,

[Cc to Perl-xs to tickle the challange-response]

On Sunday 11 January 2004 13:07, Nicholas Clark wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 12:36:54PM +0100, Tels wrote:
> > I was under the impression that perl-xs itself runsthe challenge response
> > system (or at least, the "Mail Quarantined" system from
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
>
> No. Ask and Robert hate the things.
> If you didn't Cc someone directly, my only suspicion is that someone is
> subscribed with a broken challenge-response system that objects to your
> messages, which IIRC don't have MessageIDs.

No, they have:

From: Tels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:36:54 +0100
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> (mmm. My opinion is that "broken challenge-response system" is an oxymoron
> - they all are. I guess that all CRs systems are broken, only some are more
> broken than others)

Yup. Now how to find out who has the borken system.

Their message does NOT show any sign as to where the message was originally 
going:

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> > Whenever I posted to perl-xs (well, the first two times); igot about 5
> > hours later a "your mail has been quarantined" message. I can send you
> > the original if you wish. Although I drown in spam
> > (http://bloodgate.com/spams/ stats.html ) I do not run any whitelisting
> > or challange response system (because it would send out a couple hundred
> > bogus challenges to invalid addresses a day) and even if I would,
> > mailinglistswould of course be exempt.)
>
> Not really. I just wanted to send a message to the list to see if I got
> one. I didn't.

Lucky you :)

Cheers,

Tels
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