It's a shame the core group couldn't find a better way to deal with all this-- it would seem to me that someone like Márton would be useful to have around.
Whenever a group decides to adopt a legalistic style, the gaps between it's process and the actual legal one get apparent-- rules of evidence, right to challenge accusers, etc. How about judges recusing themselves from cases where they're too personally involved? But that said, it's not as though we're talking about criminal cases here, but that makes one wonder if the legalistic stuff is at all necessary. By the way, no one who looks at this can seem to point to the violation of the Code of Conduct that deserves a ban, let alone a "lifetime ban". On Tuesday, March 17th, 2026 at 9:07 AM, Polgár Márton <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > this is probably the last message I relay here. > > The "very long; please read" would be this: > https://gist.github.com/2colours/5262cb60987a4a13760b04c1d7cd234b > > "Why this, why now, why here": almost a month ago, I got permanently banned > from the Raku community - almost like my former 2-year suspension got > extended for eternity. One may wonder what could be the sort of criminal or > severely destructive activity that led to this - but most people won't even > wonder because the whole thing was barely announced, mostly just handled "in > discretion", as if it was just paper work for moderation. Now, this obviously > meant that I became unable not only to defend or object but to even share my > own perspective after the fact so I sat back, looked into whatever seemed > important for the actual community and tried to give account with the > background as well, and figured out which channels might serve my goal: to > reach out to the actual community, to have them informed at least, even if > nothing really happens with regards to my future. Communication with the > people who created this situation in the first place seems pointless, > impossible even, because for a long time their position has been "whatever > happens, it's your fault, do better or get out" - there is nothing we could > talk about, I just hope I was more fair and on-topic with my criticism and > giving account of certain situations. It's also a non-goal to reach out with > a fairly specific and boring story to wider publicity and try to get > outsiders banter Raku yet again - I'm not very worried about this because I > think they simply won't care but since I don't have many options to target > the community at large, to some extent I will push into places where I see a > decent chance to reach to people actually interested or involved. > > As for myself: I still haven't made up my mind, honestly. 😅 There are > informal Raku spaces where I like to hang out but it doesn't necessarily make > sense to keep an eye on the project if I cannot contribute and it doesn't > seem to go in any good direction. It's possible that I will try to use this > emotional momentum to finish some old stuff off, or write some more technical > articles about specific problems - this is more a disclaimer that if it > happens, that doesn't mean that I changed my mind or something, it's not that > I feel inclined to. > > Anyway, I think to make things fair, "the community" (especially the > self-proclaimed community ie. those 5-10 people mostly around the RSC) still > owed me this chance. Now the bill is settled. Farewell > Márton Polgár / Nemokosch / 2colours
