On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 07:45:55 -0400, "Clayton O'Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Why off-list? this is a good reaction.

> On 7/14/06, H.Merijn Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Look at the list of modules I include in my perl distributions for HP-UX at
> > http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/#Perl and you might get an idea of what
> > I think are useful modules that my work more effective. Not quite like yours
> > is it?
> 
> I think a core difference between your list and Chromatic's is that
> yours would be part of the standard library in a lot of languages,
> whereas Chromatic seems to be aiming more for things that would be
> part of the language.  Not to disparage your list, but I think his is
> oriented more towards higher level abstractions, whereas yours is more
> task oriented.

Probably correct.

> Because of that, I don't really see the dichotomy as strongly as you.
> I think you can argue over which inside out object module to use, but
> that's a different sort of argument than whether or not XPath or SOAP
> support should be included in core, or some PerlPlus bundle.  At least
> it seems that way to me.

IMHO none of those should be included in the core at all. It should be made
easier to *add* them after the core is installed. Either by a website or a
GUI or whatever. Select the box "OO programming" choose "functionality", tick
all that apply, and hit [Install]. If that script/site calls 'curl ...' or
'perl -MCPAN ...' or "frobnicator2 ...' is not of any interrest to me at this
point.

If I'm not mistaken, there has been a lot of effort to enable inside-out
objects in perl-5.9 from the core side of view. So it is being appreciated
that people want it. Not that I am likely to ever use it, but that is not
being discussed here.


-- 
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& 11.23, SuSE 10.0, AIX 4.3 & 5.2, and Cygwin.       http://qa.perl.org
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