The penguin module, as written about in an early TPJ http://cpan.valueclick.com/authors/id/F/FS/FSG/ is a way to mask off part of the functionality of your perl in order to "sandbox" with very fine grained control. Let's put that into the core of perl6, the ability to turn features off, particularly within evals. -- David Nicol 816.235.1187 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Useless use of a void in constant context