Folks, I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that it is expected that we will all conduct ourselves in a generally professional and courteous manner on these lists. If for some reason you find you can't do this, do please take a step back until you can--if you don't a step will be provided for you. If you need to lace into someone, then take it private. Thanks. Dan --------------------------------------"it's like this"------------------- Dan Sugalski even samurai [EMAIL PROTECTED] have teddy bears and even teddy bears get drunk