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From: "Dan Sugalski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Nathan Torkington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: dLoo releases peer-to-peer programming language
> At 10:16 AM 7/11/2001 -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> >nile writes, "Today, dLoo released the complete architecture of an
> >extensible peer-to-peer programming language."
>
> And I thought NFS was the security hole from hell...
>
> Unless there's a lot of very clever (research-level, "Hi we're from IBM's
> Watson Labs, would you like a very highly-paid job" level) stuff going on
> under the hood that is completely and totally glossed over in all the PR
> gook, this system is slightly less secure than putting your IP address and
> root password in big letters in a 30-second Superbowl commercial.
>
> (Though I may be wrong--it's possible I'm underestimating the danger)
>
We must learn from java that initially failed to be sold as the language
for embedded devices and was integrated
as a browser (and in a browser) as an afterthought with an incredible success.
But security was built-in from the start because
these embedded devices were intended to be connected possibly on an insecure network:
Internet.
The lesson to be drawn is consistent with Dan sayings: it is an excellent way to
spread a product as a browser or better as a
plug-in but the security model must be thought ab initio. Sun and Gosling have learnt
that, among many other things,
with their unsuccessful and long-defunct Network extensible Windows system: NeWS.
Absence of security model is alsso probably the reason why perl did not trhive
in this biotop (the browsers themselves , not the servers who feeded the browsers).
The module Safe is nice though but that is an afterthought . As a result it could not
be made totally secure.
--
stef
> Dan
>
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