I just met this camel at the San Diego Zoo. His name is Santana. He is IIRC 3 months old. My proposal: Perl 6 should be code named Santana http://geeknest.com/~cwest/tpc/pictures/four/dscn0039.jpg Since we're all sitting here at this meeting, I figure it's on topic. :-) Casey West -- Shooting yourself in the foot with AMIGA-DOS The gun works pretty well, except that few people use one and it's impossible to find bullets.