On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:23:32 +0100, Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now, some of you may have noticed that I've suddenly started writing one or
> two little RFCs. Yes, this is really me, the same guy who was convinced that
> Perl 6 was an exercise in how quick we could all go to hell in a handbasket.
> I admit it. I was wrong.

Can I forward this to perl.comp.lang.misc and perl.comp.lang.moderated?

There's been some distrust messages over there. This is just a bit of a
reassurance for the disbeleivers.

Maybe it's more in brian's lane to spot these messages and react on them, but,
being a perl monger, I don't wanna lose users from perl to python, lisp or
whatever other (scripting)language.

From: The Glauber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl.moderated
Subject: Perl 6, llya, and lisp as a replacement for Perl
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:39:49 GMT
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I've been thinking long and hard about posting this, and i'm not
100% sure that i know exactly what i want to say, but this
has been bothering me for a while, and hey, this is Usenet,

Perl is great. I know i can solve problems with it faster than
with other programming languages, but i've been turning to
Java for network and web programming, and starting to
use lisp for other things i'd normally use Perl for.
What's happening? It isn't any big event or change in Perl, but
a gradual uneasiness that's creeping in.
Things are not getting any better. I've been reading way
too many posts of Ilya explaining how we could fix Perl bugs,
and everybody else saying we shouldn't. Ilya finally
defines the way Perl handles numbers (it took how many
years to have that?) and nobody seems to care! Then Ilya leaves
Perl Porters (http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/09/ilya.html has
an interesting interview). Then Perl 6 starts.

I thought Perl 6 might be a Good Thing, but thousands of
RFCs later it looks like it's becoming a
Horrible Multi-Headed Beast instead.
on't take me wrong. I'm very grateful for Larry Wall and
all the other people who worked hard to get Perl to be
what it is, but i think that if Perl refuses to grow up,
it will end up in Neverland with the other Lost Boyz.

I don't want that to happen but i'm learning Lisp, just in case.


H.Merijn Brand           Amsterdam Perl Mongers (http://www.amsterdam.pm.org/)
using perl-5.005.03, 5.6.0, 5.7.1 & 516 on HP-UX 10.20 & 11.00, AIX 4.2 & 4.3,
     DEC OSF/1 4.0 and WinNT 4.0 SP-6a,  often with Tk800.022 and/or DBD-Unify

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