Dear Bruce and David,

Thank you both for an excellent discussion of this issue! David, thank you
for your code example. Bruce, it is good to know the correct XML file
format and specification, in particular, the fact that "...the order of
attribute specifications in a start-tag or empty-element tag is not
significant" (Bruce's references below):

            https://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/#sec-starttags
>                     Note that the order of attribute specifications
>                     in a start-tag or empty-element tag is not significant.
>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57756005/writing-xml-attributes-and-namespace-declarations-in-a-specific-order
>
> https://community.adobe.com/t5/coldfusion/maintain-attribute-order-in-xml-with-a-structure/m-p/3838398
>

Bruce and David, as I look through my bash history I see I tried
XML::Writer::serialize, but kept encountering the error, "The XML tree must
have a single root node". Of course, this is using the method whereby I
create an @-sigiled array first, which Bruce states is unnecessary. But it
would be nice to know the correct way to convert an @-sigiled array into a
valid XML file:

raku -MXML::Writer -e 'my @reordered = do for lines()
{(.words[3..*],.words[0..2]).join(" ")}; say
XML::Writer.serialize(@reordered.flat);' ../lat_lon.txt
The XML tree must have a single root node

As a more general question, I'm still amazed at the effect a single pair of
parentheses can have on data output. Certainly there's something very basic
that I'm overlooking in Raku, probaby because I'm used to other languages
(e.g. R) where parens are primarily used to control precedence. Compare the
following two lines of code (and corresponding output), first one with
parens, second one without:

$ raku -MXML -e 'my @xml = do for lines() {make-xml("wpt",
(:lat(.words[5].subst(";")), :lon(.words[8])), \("time",.words[0..2]))};
.put for @xml;' ../lat_lon.txt
<wpt>lat 41.858657 lon -91.345142<time>11-06-2014 - 10:49:06PM</time></wpt>
<wpt>lat 42.864653 lon -92.349914<time>11-06-2014 - 10:49:49PM</time></wpt>
<wpt>lat 43.874808 lon -93.350364<time>11-06-2014 - 10:50:35PM</time></wpt>
<wpt>lat 44.885047 lon -94.350058<time>11-06-2014 - 10:51:21PM</time></wpt>
<wpt>lat 45.895078 lon -95.349920<time>11-06-2014 - 10:52:08PM</time></wpt>
<wpt>lat 46.905178 lon -96.349837<time>11-06-2014 - 10:53:30PM</time></wpt>
<wpt>lat 47.910303 lon -97.350606<time>11-06-2014 - 10:54:50PM</time></wpt>

$ raku -MXML -e 'my @xml = do for lines() {make-xml("wpt",
:lat(.words[5].subst(";")), :lon(.words[8]), \("time",.words[0..2]))}; .put
for @xml;' /lat_lon.txt
<wpt lon="-91.345142" lat="41.858657"><time>11-06-2014 -
10:49:06PM</time></wpt>
<wpt lon="-92.349914" lat="42.864653"><time>11-06-2014 -
10:49:49PM</time></wpt>
<wpt lon="-93.350364" lat="43.874808"><time>11-06-2014 -
10:50:35PM</time></wpt>
<wpt lon="-94.350058" lat="44.885047"><time>11-06-2014 -
10:51:21PM</time></wpt>
<wpt lon="-95.349920" lat="45.895078"><time>11-06-2014 -
10:52:08PM</time></wpt>
<wpt lat="46.905178" lon="-96.349837"><time>11-06-2014 -
10:53:30PM</time></wpt>
<wpt lon="-97.350606" lat="47.910303"><time>11-06-2014 -
10:54:50PM</time></wpt>

Presuming this isn't an issue with the XML module per se, I may indeed be
one of those people who needs to use a Raku "slang" to curtail my
pluri-parenthetical tendencies. Something on the order of a 'strict' slang
that absolutely requires an explicit $(...) instead of the standard Raku
behavior wherein (...) understood by Raku to mean $(...).  Would that be a
difficult slang to implement?

Best Regards, Bill.

W. Michels, Ph.D.


On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 6:45 PM Bruce Gray <robertbrucegr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> David,
>
> Aha! I am very glad to be wrong!
>
> $ raku -MXML::Writer -ne 'print XML::Writer.serialize: :wpt[
> :lat(.words[5].subst(";")), :lon(.words[8]), :time[.words.head(3).join("
> ")] ];'  lat_lon.txt
> <wpt lat="41.858657" lon="-91.345142"><time>11-06-2014 -
> 10:49:06PM</time></wpt>
> <wpt lat="42.864653" lon="-92.349914"><time>11-06-2014 -
> 10:49:49PM</time></wpt>
> <wpt lat="43.874808" lon="-93.350364"><time>11-06-2014 -
> 10:50:35PM</time></wpt>
> <wpt lat="44.885047" lon="-94.350058"><time>11-06-2014 -
> 10:51:21PM</time></wpt>
> <wpt lat="45.895078" lon="-95.349920"><time>11-06-2014 -
> 10:52:08PM</time></wpt>
> <wpt lat="46.905178" lon="-96.349837"><time>11-06-2014 -
> 10:53:30PM</time></wpt>
> <wpt lat="47.910303" lon="-97.350606"><time>11-06-2014 -
> 10:54:50PM</time></wpt>
>
> I do note that XML::Writer does not show up in the search at
> https://modules.raku.org/t/XML ,
> and is very under-documented, so that is an opportunity for someone to
> contribute.
>
> --
> Hope this helps,
> Bruce Gray (Util of PerlMonks)
>
> > On Jul 16, 2021, at 2:53 PM, David Warring <david.warr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > The XML::Writer module side-steps any ordering issues by directly
> serializing data structures to xml:
> >
> > $ raku -M XML::Writer -e'say XML::Writer.serialize: :wpt[ :lat<42>,
> :long<69>, "blah" ]'
> > <wpt lat="42" long="69">blah</wpt>
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 4:48 AM Bruce Gray <robertbrucegr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > On Jul 15, 2021, at 11:02 PM, William Michels via perl6-users <
> perl6-users@perl.org> wrote:
> >
> > (and I re-ordered):
> >
> > > Any help appreciated,
> > > Thanks, Bill.
> > > REFERENCE:  https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/166675/227738
> >
> >
> > > I'm trying to put an answer together for SO, and I keep running into
> the same difficulty. Given a CSV file,
> >
> > Note: input is a log file, not in CSV format.
> >
> > > how can one produce an XML file with latitude and longitude values
> properly quoted? Every time I get proper quoting, "lat" and "lon" are
> scrambled (i.e. sometimes "lat" first, sometimes "lat" second).
> > ...
> > > using the "make-xml()" function from the XML module, I end up
> scrambling "lat/lon”:
> >
> > You are using the correct XML module, and you are using it correctly.
> >
> > Similar to a Raku hash, the attributes in an XML start-tag are
> *unordered*.
> > While the inconsistant ordering may be displeasing to our human eyes,
> any program reading XML should treat your current output identically to
> your desired output.
> >
> > In Raku-speak, these two hashes have the same contents:
> >     my %wpt1 = lat => 'A', lon => 'z';
> >     my %wpt2 = lon => 'z', lat => 'A’;
> >
> > Designers of XML libraries are reluctant to add the ability to force an
> ordering; it would lead to XML-reading programs making improper assumptions.
> > Like many major XML libraries in other languages, I see no such ability
> in the Raku XML module.
> > See:
> >         https://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/#sec-starttags
> >                 Note that the order of attribute specifications
> >                 in a start-tag or empty-element tag is not significant.
> >
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57756005/writing-xml-attributes-and-namespace-declarations-in-a-specific-order
> >
> https://community.adobe.com/t5/coldfusion/maintain-attribute-order-in-xml-with-a-structure/m-p/3838398
> >
> > > Conversely, if I manage to restrict "lat/lon" to the correct order, I
> lose the equals sign and proper (value) quotation.
> >
> >
> > Unless you just hardcode a template and insert the lat/lon/datetime
> values (never a good idea), you will have to live with the varying order.
> > I will point out that the XML library also does not output the
> multi-line indentation that the OP shows; it is irrelevant in XML.
> >
> >
> > > $ raku -MXML -e 'my @xml = do for lines() {make-xml("wpt",
> :lat(.words[5].subst(";")), :lon(.words[8]), \("time",.words[0..2]))}; .put
> for @xml;’  lat_lon.txt
> >
> > Minor critiques:
> > That use of `@array = do for lines() {…}` is more commonly written as
> `@array = lines().map: {…}`
> >         raku -MXML -e 'my @xml = lines().map: {make-xml("wpt",
> :lat(.words[5].subst(";")), :lon(.words[8]), \("time",.words[0..2]))}; .put
> for @xml;'  lat_lon.txt
> >
> > Nothing is gained by creating an array, just to print each line of the
> array, so your can just `put` each time you construct an XML line.
> >         raku -MXML -e 'for lines() { put make-xml("wpt",
> :lat(.words[5].subst(";")), :lon(.words[8]), \("time",.words[0..2])) }'
> lat_lon.txt
> >
> > When all the output is per-line based on the input, the `-p` or `-n`
> flag removes the need for `for lines`.
> >         raku -MXML -ne 'put make-xml("wpt", :lat(.words[5].subst(";")),
> :lon(.words[8]), \("time",.words[0..2]))'  lat_lon.txt
> >
> >
> >
> > > So far, I can correctly swap the date/time to the end:
> > >
> > > $ raku -MXML -e 'my @reordered = do for lines()
> {(.words[3..*],.words[0..2])}; .put for @reordered;’  lat_lon.txt
> >
> > I am sure that `-MXML` is leftover from other experiments.
> > Removing `@reordered` and switching to `-n` like my critiques above,
> this becomes:
> >         raku -ne 'put (.words[3..*],.words[0..2]);' lat_lon.txt
> > To “wow” the SO crowd, you might note that @array[N..*],@array[0..N-1]
> has a shortcut in Raku (.rotate), making this the tightest of all the
> solutions I see so far:
> >         raku -ne 'put .words.rotate(3);'  lat_lon.txt
> >
> > --
> > Hope this helps,
> > Bruce Gray (Util of PerlMonks)
> >
>
>

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