My dear Shmuel, thanks!

 

Mine in ActivePerl 5.10.1, build 1006.

 

I'll try it!

 

Regards,

Meir

 

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From: perl-boun...@perl.org.il [mailto:perl-boun...@perl.org.il] On Behalf
Of Gaal Yahas
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:10 PM
To: Perl in Israel
Subject: Re: [Israel.pm] Hebrew in the command window

 

CP1255 is not Unicode; it is an 8-bit codepage. These are remnants from the
old days where memory was scarce and full internationalization was not a
hard requirement. They generally extended ASCII (which uses only 7 bits)
with characters from (generally) only one or two more languages, whatever
fits in the extra 128 points.

 

I don't know enough about the Windows installations of Perl to say why
you're missing so many encodings. Is this Strawberry Perl?

 

In a pinch, you can implement your own encoding module (see
Encode::Encoding). The general idea is to pass any ASCII through, deduct
1474 from Hebrew Unicode characters, and die on anything else. (Why 1474?
Because Aleph is U+05d0 and codepage 1255 (almost == iso 8859-8) begins at
0xE0. See Encode::Encoding.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Meir Guttman <m...@guttman.co.il> wrote:

Thanks Shmuel!

Isn't Cp1255 Unicode too?

As I said in a previous post of this thread, this is not a pressing issue
for me right now. So I'll give it a rest now.

(You see, I am spoiled ;-). I am used to get a "quick fix" to most of my
Perl problems from the community. But I see that this one is not going to
such. I am rather surprised though. I would expect Microsoft at least to
support Hebrew and/or Unicode on something so basic as the command window.
And as to many applications breaking down with BiDi, they can include a
"compatibility mode", can't they? But its Microsoft, right?)


Regards,
Meir

-----Original Message-----
From: perl-boun...@perl.org.il [mailto:perl-boun...@perl.org.il] On Behalf

Of Shmuel Fomberg
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:53 PM
To: Perl in Israel

Subject: Re: [Israel.pm] Hebrew in the command window

Hi Meir.

Meir Guttman wrote:
> The problem I have is when I "print" Hebrew to the STDOUT device. It is
> shown as "gibberish." (BTW, re-directing it to a file and opening it in
> a UTF-8 compatible editor shows the Hebrew fine, thank you!)

The DOS box is not unicode-aware. so you need to convert the text to
hebrew 8-bit encoding before printing it out.
try to convert it (decode) to "iso-8859-8" or "cp865", or, if these two
doesn't work, try "cp1255".

Of course, you need to make sure that your terminal is loaded with
hebrew-capable fonts.
I would advise to first write a small program that print a nice table,
with all the characters above 30. you should see hebrew letters in
there, or you need to change the font.
In addition, it will give you a clue which code page you need to use.
Indexed by the 'Alef' position:
128 - cp865
224 - iso-8859-8

Have fun.
Shmuel.

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