Hi sawyer,

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:20:03 +0300
sawyer x <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Shlomi Fish <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:11:48 +0300
> > sawyer x <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Shlomi Fish <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > as The Perl Foundation has published a call for grant proposals (see
> > > > http://news.perlfoundation.orgseems
> > > > /2012/07/2012q3-call-for-grant-proposal.html<
> > http://news.perlfoundation.org/2012/07/2012q3-call-for-grant-proposal.html
> > >),
> > > > I've written this grant proposal and I would appreciate if you can go
> > over
> > > > it
> > > > and comment before I send the final copy:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.shlomifish.org/Files/files/text/tpf-grants/Perl-Debugger-Tests-And-Refactoring.pod
> > > >
> > >
> > > It seems succinct, whereas I would elaborate more.
> > >
> > > 1. How many tests are you going to add? You wrote "most of the commands
> > > listed in the manual" - what does that mean? Which commands? Why?
> > > 2. What does "a method to find lines in the debuggers" mean? I don't
> > > understand the 2nd clause in the "Inch-stones".
> > > 3. Which lines? What does it mean "add tests for [...] lines"?
> > > 4. The schedule is rough. Perhaps creating a broader schedule would allow
> > > you to take your time, but still provide a time-frame for TPF to estimate
> > > your progress?
> > > 5. The "Completeness Criteria" does not include the criteria for
> > > completeness. It just means it will be available for review and merge
> > > (which is good!), but perhaps you actually want to write down how to know
> > > when you're done - what you consider "completeness".
> > > 6. The amount seems high considering you cannot divide it to a specific
> > > amount of hours to prove that it's worthwhile and not expensive.
> > >
> >
> > so I implemented your suggestions and they can be found here:
> >
> >
> > http://www.shlomifish.org/Files/files/text/tpf-grants/Perl-Debugger-Tests-And-Refactoring.pod
> >
> 
> Nicely done. It reads much clearer now and I understand much more. I reckon
> that's important for big grants such as this (and by "big", I mean
> influential).

OK.

> 
> I noticed the sentence "add automated more tests", I think you meant "add
> more automated tests".

Yes, thanks. I corrected it now.

> 
> 
> > Regarding the "completeness" section - I just filled the text in the
> > template:
> >
> > http://www.shlomifish.org/Files/files/text/tpf-grants/template.pod
> >
> 
> > Maybe I misunderstood.
> >
> 
> That does fit the template, but that still leaves (at least to me)
> something to be desired: how would I know you completed it? However, since
> you've now added specifically what you want to add support for, it's much
> clearer. :)
> 
> Good luck with the grant! :)

OK, thanks.

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish


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