On Fri, 6 Sep 2013, Nick Thomas wrote:

[ note, using "EU" for "end user" is _very_ confusing ]

PPP gets a lot of use still, especially between EUs and access ISPs,
where it's generally not encrypted. RFC1968 exists, but doesn't actually
seem useful any more.

I'm envisioning a PPP enhancement where EU and ISP can exchange public
keys beforehand, out-of-band if necessary, but it's all extremely fuzzy
at the moment. My access ISP, who I have considerable trust in, has no
real control over the infrastructure between my house and their access
node near London - all that's BT-operated, and they just get to
terminate PPP over it.

Any ISP that does not trust the last-mile providers should offer their
customers VPN access via IPsec. Actually, they should offer it
regardless so their users can use a VPN to connect to the ISPs
infrastructure when the user is roaming on his laptop/phone as well.

There is no "ppp encryption" the ISP can add, because the last-mile
provider usually terminates the PPP(OE) session. They need to add
encryption on the resulting IP layer, not below it.

Paul
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