On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 02:09:31 +0100 Stephen Farrell <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10/16/2013 01:37 AM, Leo Vegoda wrote: > > Have you considered documenting your thoughts in a less > > conversational style? > > Good suggestion. And there's time before the I-D > cutoff too. [1] You mean, write a draft? I am new here... I am only a user who really just came here out of frustration, thinking that if there was anything at all I could do to badger people to improve usablility, my main concern, I might do that. Just a consumer of RFCs, etc. The whole default deny thing was just an offhand thought based off anothers comment. I surely didn't have any such thing in mind before that moment. I decided to just explore the idea a bit, thinking that either someone would point out a serious flaw, or if it seemed useful, someone wiser than I might possibly incorporate the idea in some improved form into something already being worked on. At this point I don't really know if anyone else thinks this is a good idea, or a bad idea, or I am just another nutcase so out of the flow most are ignoring me. If it is the last, just say so, I am not thin skinned and will shut up about this with no rancor. ;-) > I found it hard to distinguish between your thoughts about user > interface design and your ideas for a protocol. Frankly, I'd wait > for a strong protocol design before thinking about UI elements. Yes, I think I misunderstood what you were asking, as I thought to myself while writing that last exactly the same thing, that specifics like that were not really very relevant yet. Except to the degree they may shed some light on what might be required underneath. I don't really think of this as a protocol, it is more in the nature of 'if you add this minor capability to MTAs, we could do this'. In short form: -- Encrypted email should be default deny, causing it to be a special case for a persons inner circle, providing anti-spam benefits, and allowing normal unencrypted mail and the many years of expected behaviors to procede just as before so as not to break important existing uses of email and encourage its use. Add another extended command to ESMTP that allows a user agent to indicate that a message has been encrypted by it, so that state can be passed on and used further down the line to filter email, allowing a default deny mode to be used for encrypted mail. -- What is that? Not really a protocol, yes? Minor change to a protocol. By the way -Steve- usually on lists there is no need to also CC people with your posts, but I noticed some here seemed to do that. I did notice sometimes the list, or at least the archive, seems a little slow. What is the norm here? -Mike _______________________________________________ perpass mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass
