I finally got around to submitting the -01 draft, considerably
re-organized, per feedback here, to make it clear that the discussion is
independent of any particular technology, and to include a tl;dr er cough
excuse me “Summary” section.

Real HTML is at https://www.tbray.org/tmp/draft-bray-privacy-choices-01.html

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A new version of I-D, draft-bray-privacy-choices-01.txt
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Name:           draft-bray-privacy-choices
Revision:       01
Title:          Privacy Choices for Internet Data Services
Document date:  2015-04-11
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          5
URL:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bray-privacy-choices-01.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bray-privacy-choices/
Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bray-privacy-choices-01
Diff:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-bray-privacy-choices-01

Abstract:
   This document argues in favor of Internet service providers deploying
   technologies which offer increased privacy to users of their
   services.  The discussion is independent of any particular privacy
   technology.  The approach is to consider common objections to the the
   deployment of such technologies, and show that these objections are
   not well-founded.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Robin Wilton <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Steve - and thanks for the correction.
>
> I agree with your additional use-cases/threat scenarios, naturally… I was
> just trying to keep it to one simple illustration ;^)
>
> R
>
> On 16 Mar 2015, at 14:22, Stephen Kent <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Robin,
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Primrose goes to InsureMe.com, where she will be asked for a lot of
> personal data. InsureMe.com invites her to register and create a new
> account, with an ID and password; all this is done over https, so
> InsureMe.com is confident it has taken suitable steps to protect the data
> from being visible to third parties.
> > Third parties on the wire. Experience shows that Primrose's data is most
> likely to be
> > disclosed to third parties once it is on the InsureMe.com web site. Your
> example
> > goes on to cite a privacy violation in the form of Gotcher.com. But, a
> successful attack
> > against InsureMe.com also would violate the confidentiality of
> Primrose's data.
> >
> > Bottom line: I agree with your observation that privacy is not the same
> as
> > confidentiality, and we often overly simplify these discussions.
> >
> > Steve
> >
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