Don,
  Loud and clear,
 Working on the technique right now and I think I've got in down finally. I
have a size 16 with about 8 segments (I know you can get more but it looks
good). the only thing I have a hard time with is thetear drop, is there a
trick to getting the teardrop?

Jim Burbank
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From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:02 PM
Subject: [ROPE-DUB] Welcome message #RD-01 1/23/03


> Hi, John, Joyce, and all other 'ropers',  giddeyap lil' doegee!  Welcome!
>
> Thanks for joining my first swap.  Splitting the group in 2 seemed to
please
> everyone.  Less tying for each.
>
> On the topic of dubbing and yarns:
> Ropes and noodles and spins and twists have been going on for a very long
> time.   Twenty years ago I was roping poly-u yarn for hopper bodies.
This
> is not what rope-dubbing is about.  Also, almost all linear-fiber dubbings
> (and thus yarns) can be tied down and spun-roped and wrapped forward,
> creating segments.  Lots of people do this- many patterns in the books.  I
> would not even approach this as a 'new' technique.  But this is not the
> rope-dub method, either.  When Polly roped his big stone bodies, and many
> like him- Dave Whitlock included, he allowed the thread to twist with the
> material.  Whether a loop, split strand, or single strand of thread, if
the
> thread twists with the dubbing, it's not my technique.  In those methods,
> the thread is the limitation of the roping, breaking before the dubbing
ever
> gets tight enough to create segments.
>
> The important thing to remember in the 'rope-dub' method is that the
thread,
> or wire, is a 'platform' on which to rope.  Since the thread or wire core
> does not twist with the rope, some variables now come into play.   This is
> where the rope-dub shines.  Versus yarns, taper and color variations come
> into play, plus the ability to easily vary segment width and body size in
> one step.  The ability to change the dub if it doesn't suit you is
another.
> Just unwrap, vary the rope, which is not fixed, and re-wrap.
>
> So far as I've seen, ANYTHING can be rope-dubbed.   Bob Haerings 'Dubbing
> from hell' was the toughest, but once I figured it out, the results were
> well worth the effort.  I'll be sending photos of various roped bodies
using
> everything in my possession that can be called a dubbing.  Having one
> technique that can apply all dubbings to any size fly, bushy or clean, is
a
> real find.  My record so far is 21 segments on a size 28 Mustad shank.
The
> exact same method and dubbing will produce a #2 6X stonefly tail.  People
> were cussing ice-dubbing until I publicised the rope-dub for it, as all of
> the previous noodling techniques fell short of shaping any kind of body
with
> it.  A clean-segmented ice-dub caddis body can be done in 30 seconds flat.
> And you don't have to vary the technique to do it.  And wax, which is
never
> used,  would just kill the luster of ice dubbing and many others.
>
> Learners should start with a long-fibered dubbing, like SLF or llama.  It
> ropes easily and shows the segmentation results quickly.  Then move on to
> different dubbings, starting with clipped furs and longer synthetics.
Then
> finally try short synthetics, which are the toughest to master.  The nice
> thing is that once you 'get it', it all becomes so fast and easy.
>
> Once you can rope your personal arsenal of dubbings, then experiment.
Comb
> the cat or dog and rope the fuzz from the brush.  Rope dryer lint?  Rope a
> lock of hair from your head, if you can spare it.  Mix dubbings, adding
> flash materials like awesome hair scraps.  As your 'final' step, try
roping
> on the new tying wires, either as a tag or as your tying thread.
>
> This should be a lot of fun.    Any questions?  16 flies each.
>
> Again, Welcome ALL!!!
>
> DonO
>
> PS  When you get this message, please reply 'received #RD-01'
>
>
>
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