We get all our bags/cable ties through Uline, but I'm guessing other places
sell similar versions as well.  I think the thickest mil Uline has for bags
is "8", and that seems to work well for reusing (you do have to be sort of
gentle though to not scuff/scrape/tear when handling)
Sometimes the cable ties get a little hard to release when they are
tightened to the max.  But other than that, overall they seem to work well.

-Todd

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 1:43 PM Oliver, Margaret <[email protected]> wrote:

> Todd,
>
> What reusable cable ties do you use? The plastic doesn't become too
> brittle after sitting in the freezer? I like this idea over taping bags
> shut if it does a good job and can be reused a bunch of times.
>
> *Margaret Oliver*, M.S.
> Herbarium Collections Manager
> (she / her / hers)
>
>
> The University of Tennessee, Knoxville
> University of Tennessee Herbarium (TENN)
> 114 Temple Hall
> 1818 Andy Holt Ave.
> Knoxville, TN 37996-2800
>
> [email protected]
> 865-974-6213
> http://herbarium.utk.edu
>
> Big Orange. Big Ideas.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf
> of Todd Holmberg <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 2:40 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [pestlist] Freezer Treatment Tape Recommendations?
>
> I'm not sure what the typical sizes are of your objects/containers, but
> something that we have done that has worked pretty well has been to invest
> in heavy duty plastic bags that can accommodate a wide variety of "small to
> medium" shapes/sizes.  If you get the heaviest duty plastic, they are a
> little pricey, but they can be reused over and over.
> We place the object inside, remove as much air as possible, and then twist
> the bag opening trying to make the tightest seal against outside air as
> possible.  We then put a reusable cable tie on the twisted area of the bag
> and fasten it as tight as possible.  In theory, since it's "in a bag" vs
> "wrapped in a sheet of plastic" there is only one seam to worry about (the
> twisted part of the bag) as opposed to all the taped seams like a wrapping
> a birthday gift.  The cable ties can get super tight and keep holding
> really well even at -30F.
> We double bag with this method and haven't had any problems with
> condensation forming or seals breaking.
>
> -Todd
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 12:18 PM Lee, Kasey J RBCM:EX <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Yes, regular packing tape (don’t know about the reinforced type) loses
> adhesion to plastic when cold. It has failed for us many times.
>
> Kasey
>
> On Nov 14, 2019, at 9:59 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Thank you, Kasey.
>
> I will look into the Tuck Tape.
>
> Have you experienced the packing tape failing on you?
>
> Julie
>
> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:04:20 AM UTC-8, Lee, Kasey J RBCM:EX
> wrote:
> Hi Julie,
>
> We rely on red plastic “Tuck Tape”. It’s expensive but never fails as the
> plain packing or masking tape will.
>
> Cheers,
> Kasey
>
> Kasey Lee
> Senior Conservator
> Royal BC Museum
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2019, at 8:54 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello, Pestlist
>
>
> Any recommendations/thoughts on tape to use for low-temperature treatment
> plastic sealing?
>
> I've used different varieties of duct tape and carton-sealing 'packing'
> tape and so far I have not experienced any obvious failing. However,
> reading more into tape recommended temperatures maybe I'm playing with
> fire? (playing with ice???) It seems like most of the tape I've been using
> is not recommended for temperatures below -10C.
>
> The museum pests website says to use tape that will not fail in low
> temperatures. Have others experienced regular packing tape failing? Any
> recommendations? I see there are tapes made for use in sub freezing
> temperatures, does anyone use those?
>
> Thanks, All!
>
> Julie
>
> Collections Care Specialist
> Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco
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