This thread is really tickling me, I can't stop giggling. Sorry, I realise this is off topic, but it reminds me of something I saw on the web years ago, which are 'animal essences' that you can purchase, to give you the 'vibe' of that animal. https://www.animalessence.com/
How are they made? ' No animals are captured or harmed to develop these products. The essences are made during a ceremonial process in the Virginia wilderness. This ceremonial process includes attuning with and invoking the spirit of the animal involved. The resulting liquid contains the energy of the animal but does not contain any animal parts.' I still can't get past 'the resulting liquid'... Ok, sorry again for the distraction, back to work! Cheers, Tonya ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Susan Buce <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2021 5:32 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [External] - RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PestList] foxes and sound emitters It’s not the bottling of the urine that boggles the mind. Who is milking it out of the cougar? Or better yet, out of a bear? The researcher in me couldn’t leave this alone. Article: “How Do We Collect The Pee?” https://www.predatorpeestore.com/How-Do-We-Collect-The-Pee-.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_ciKo8Xd7gIVHz6tBh0B5Qf7EAAYASAAEgJtpfD_BwE Susan Buce, Museum Registrar Columbia Gorge Discovery Center and Museum 5000 Discovery Drive The Dalles, Oregon 97058 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 541-296-8600 ext. 242 www.gorgediscovery.org<http://www.gorgediscovery.org/> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Belair, Sean Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 11:27 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [External] - RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PestList] foxes and sound emitters Man, I thought I had an unusual job, but there is someone out there bottling cougar urine eight hours a day. Sean Patrick Belair Assistant Conservator Arms & Armor Conservation The Metropolitan Museum of Art New York, NY 1000 5th Avenue, 10028 (917) 612-0379<tel:%28917%29%20612-0379> ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Susan Buce <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 2:22 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [External] - RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PestList] foxes and sound emitters I was astounded to find I could purchase critter urine of all kinds at our local sporting goods store. I bought mine at Bi-Mart. Anyplace that sells supplies for hunters will likely have it. Susan Buce, Museum Registrar Columbia Gorge Discovery Center and Museum 5000 Discovery Drive The Dalles, Oregon 97058 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 541-296-8600 ext. 242 www.gorgediscovery.org<http://www.gorgediscovery.org/> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace) Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 11:15 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PestList] foxes and sound emitters Just curious where one can get cougar urine, particularly at short notice? 😉. Tonya ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Susan Buce <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2021 3:06 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PestList] foxes and sound emitters I agree that predator urine is the best non-toxic deterrent to pest mammals. I had great success in encouraging skunks to vacate the premises under my house when I sprinkled cougar urine liberally around the hole they dug. Bear urine might be effective, or perhaps you can find some wolf urine (although I should think coyote, while non-native to the UK, would have the same effect as wolf? I’m finding an ad online for “thepeemart.com<http://thepeemart.com>” and they sell wolf urine as well. $21.99 in US dollars, so not very expensive. We have foxes at our museum, but since we have 54 acres and are in a semi-arid climate, there’s no well-manicured lawn to disrupt, only native plants in the landscape. Rattlesnakes and scorpions, however, are a different problem. Susan Buce, Museum Registrar Columbia Gorge Discovery Center and Museum 5000 Discovery Drive The Dalles, Oregon 97058 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 541-296-8600 ext. 242 www.gorgediscovery.org<http://www.gorgediscovery.org/> From: 'Adrian Doyle' via MuseumPests <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 5:55 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PestList] foxes and sound emitters Dear pesty people Thanks, I’ll pass this over to our contractor Adie From: 'McManus, Blyth L' via MuseumPests <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: 08 February 2021 12:51 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PestList] foxes and sound emitters I agree with the suggestion of coyote scent. One of my outdoorsy co-workers suggested that the foxes might not like human scent, but that may depend on how tame they have become. ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Voron, Joel <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 7:44 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PestList] foxes and sound emitters This email has been received from outside of DOI - Use caution before clicking on links, opening attachments, or responding. The foxes may still be scared of the scent. May smell like some strange new monster to them. JTV https://www.amazon.com/PredatorPee-Original-Coyote-Bottle-ScentTags/dp/B084P2WY5V/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?crid=1D9EVNBCL2UGL&dchild=1&keywords=coyote+urine+animal+repellent&qid=1612788142&sprefix=coyote+urine%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-4-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExVVZKR0Q5TzREQUROJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjQxNzkwMTlQQVRPTTMxTjNMMyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMTExMjM2WENaR1FOQkQ5N1ZEJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==#customerReviews<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FPredatorPee-Original-Coyote-Bottle-ScentTags%2Fdp%2FB084P2WY5V%2Fref%3Dsr_1_4_sspa%3Fcrid%3D1D9EVNBCL2UGL%26dchild%3D1%26keywords%3Dcoyote%2Burine%2Banimal%2Brepellent%26qid%3D1612788142%26sprefix%3Dcoyote%2Burine%252Caps%252C146%26sr%3D8-4-spons%26psc%3D1%26spLa%3DZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExVVZKR0Q5TzREQUROJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjQxNzkwMTlQQVRPTTMxTjNMMyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMTExMjM2WENaR1FOQkQ5N1ZEJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ%3D%3D%23customerReviews&data=04%7C01%7Cblyth_mcmanus%40nps.gov%7Cff59edd567a94864a1ed08d8cc2f5fc0%7C0693b5ba4b184d7b9341f32f400a5494%7C0%7C0%7C637483851153905989%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=vibn36wVSw93srlNN5BMAgc0MIIKHFlHKrwiwmTQ3u4%3D&reserved=0> Amazon.com : PredatorPee Original Coyote Urine 16oz Spray Bottle Combo with ScentTags : Garden & Outdoor<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FPredatorPee-Original-Coyote-Bottle-ScentTags%2Fdp%2FB084P2WY5V%2Fref%3Dsr_1_4_sspa%3Fcrid%3D1D9EVNBCL2UGL%26dchild%3D1%26keywords%3Dcoyote%2Burine%2Banimal%2Brepellent%26qid%3D1612788142%26sprefix%3Dcoyote%2Burine%252Caps%252C146%26sr%3D8-4-spons%26psc%3D1%26spLa%3DZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExVVZKR0Q5TzREQUROJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjQxNzkwMTlQQVRPTTMxTjNMMyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMTExMjM2WENaR1FOQkQ5N1ZEJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ%3D%3D%23customerReviews&data=04%7C01%7Cblyth_mcmanus%40nps.gov%7Cff59edd567a94864a1ed08d8cc2f5fc0%7C0693b5ba4b184d7b9341f32f400a5494%7C0%7C0%7C637483851153915938%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=KCR4sZIiCkQ8MeOUIM2c9sezMf%2F6mxptiUeDPTuLPuA%3D&reserved=0> Amazon.com : PredatorPee Original Coyote Urine 16oz Spray Bottle Combo with ScentTags : Garden & Outdoor www.amazon.com<http://www.amazon.com> Joel Voron Colonial Williamsburg Foundation Conservation Dept. Integrated Pest Management Office 757-220-7080 Cell 757-634-1175 E-Mail [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [1474552137245_IMG_0499.JPG] ________________________________ From: 'Adrian Doyle' via MuseumPests <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 7:30 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [PestList] foxes and sound emitters [CAUTION: This message originated from outside the Foundation. Do not click links, open attachments or take action unless you know the contents are safe] thanks Joel but we don't have coyotes in the UK! ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Voron, Joel <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: 08 February 2021 12:12 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [PestList] foxes and sound emitters Maybe order some coyote urine and place that around for a couple of days and see if that could get them to move on? Should be a cheap experiment. JTV Joel Voron Colonial Williamsburg Foundation Conservation Dept. Integrated Pest Management Office 757-220-7080<tel:757-220-7080> Cell 757-634-1175<tel:757-634-1175> E-Mail [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> On Feb 8, 2021, at 6:57 AM, 'Adrian Doyle' via MuseumPests <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: [CAUTION: This message originated from outside the Foundation. Do not click links, open attachments or take action unless you know the contents are safe] Hi folks the foxes have started digging up into our lovely lawns in the front of the British Museum. We know where they live and have been working with the private residences to deal with this. 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