Thank you and sorry for not including scale!  The size of the particle in those 
images is 4-5mm.  This was in an enclosed case with weaknesses in its 
construction but I am hoping a mouse couldn’t have squeezed in there.  I’ll 
look at the weaknesses more closely though, as well as check all objects in the 
area for possible beetle or other issues.  We do have recurring problems with 
beetles.

We have found shrews in blunder traps in there recently (just a month ago).  
Would a shrew eat fly carcasses?  I didn’t see any signs of beetle activity 
outside of the frass from the fly carcasses.

Thanks!

Jodi

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dr 
Tony Irwin
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 1:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PestList] winged pest

Hi Jodi
Your photos show the remains of blow-flies (Calliphoridae, probably Calliphora 
species). Their bodies have been eaten by something else, such as a clothes 
moth or dermestid beetle. Unfortunately anything which is happy eating dead 
flies is a potential threat to other organic remains, including museum objects. 
A set of blunder traps would help to establish what pests you have, and where 
they are concentrated. The photos 105833 and 105914 need a scale with them, or 
at least tell us the size of the object. I'm guessing it's a few millimetres 
long, and might be a mouse dropping. Again, a potential threat to museum 
materials.
Best wishes
Tony

Dr A.G.Irwin
47 The Avenues
Norwich
Norfolk NR2 3PH
England
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 22:29, Jodi Lundgren 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hey all,

We had to pull these bits of bugs out of a case.  It didn’t look like anything 
was actively happening to the object nearby.  I tried to do a wing search and 
think these may look like Conopidae?  I haven’t done a lot of identification so 
I may be way off base here.

There were bits of specs under and around the carcasses.  I thought the little 
bits may just be the bodies desiccating and flaking off.  I don’t know if they 
can decompose in consistently-sized breakage/flaking like that and am just 
shooting from the hip here in trying to figure this out.  I’m most worried that 
something else may be eating them and this is frass—that there is some OTHER 
pest that I should be concerned about.

Can anyone advise on what I may be dealing with here?

Thanks!

Jodi Lundgren
Collections Manager
The Indian Museum of North America®
Crazy Horse Memorial Foundation
12151 Avenue of the Chiefs
Crazy Horse, SD  57730-8900
Phone (605) 673-4681
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