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I have to agree. I've been travelling but the first picture that was posted was enough. Very distinctive head. Some are plant feeders; some predaceous. Their wings (if present) are also quite distinctive and characteristic for the order. Louis N. Sorkin, B.C.E. | Entomologist, Arachnologist, Myriapodologist Insect Cuisine & Entomophagy Research Division of Invertebrate Zoology | American Museum of Natural History Central Park West at 79th Street | New York, New York 10024-5192 sor...@amnh.org<mailto:sor...@amnh.org> 212-769-5613 voice | 212-769-5277 fax The New York Entomological Society, Inc. www.nyentsoc.org<http://www.nyentsoc.org/> n...@amnh.org<mailto:n...@amnh.org> ________________________________ From: pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net <pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net> on behalf of Tony Irwin <dr.tony.ir...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:47:43 AM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] Please help me with ID of insect This is a message from the Museumpests.net List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- Hi Johanna As others have suggested, a specimen or magnified photo would be best to get a definitive name, but looking at your pictures, I am quite sure that the insect is a thrips (Thysanoptera). These insects regularly squeeze themselves into picture frames (they have evolved to insert themselves into very narrow spaces in the plants on which they feed). They will do no damage themselves, but occasionally a dead thrips can act as a focal point for mould, which may damage works on paper, so they are best removed from the frames. Best wishes Tony Dr A.G.Irwin 47 The Avenues Norwich Norfolk NR2 3PH England mobile: +44(0)7880707834 phone: +44(0)1603 453524 On 23 June 2017 at 14:32, Jessica Lian Pace <jessica.p...@nyu.edu<mailto:jessica.p...@nyu.edu>> wrote: This is a message from the Museumpests.net List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- Hello Johanna, Once you have the frame open, you can try using a piece of clear tape to capture the insect. If a standard microscope is not readily available, a simple microscope attachment for the smartphone can be obtained for a very reasonable price. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QLYPMZW?psc=1<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fdp%2FB00QLYPMZW%3Fpsc%3D1&data=01%7C01%7Csorkin%40amnh.org%7Cdbbc90eae0704444f99e08d4ba3effce%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0&sdata=EnkHAfzMZeSkWEhndf5eJDaXTZzzTYh0tHXqMpWjdKA%3D&reserved=0> Good luck! Best, Jessica On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Diehl Johanna <johanna.di...@khm.at<mailto:johanna.di...@khm.at>> wrote: This is a message from the Museumpests.net List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- Sorry!! Von: Diehl Johanna Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juni 2017 14:41 An: pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> Betreff: AW: [pestlist] Please help me with ID of insect Now with images Von: pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net> [mailto:pestlist-ow...@museumpests.net] Im Auftrag von Diehl Johanna Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juni 2017 14:38 An: pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> Betreff: AW: [pestlist] Please help me with ID of insect This is a message from the Museumpests.net List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> To unsubscribe look at the footer of this email. ----------------------------------------------------------- Dear Rich, attached some more pictures. Have you any ideas? The insects move, that means they are alive and they are very small (2mm). But we will open the pictureframe anyway to get a further view on the problem. Thanks Johanna Kunsthistorisches Museum Wien Mag. 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