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Dear all,
the scale on the picture is half a milimeter, which means the insects are 1,5 
mm long.

Von: Diehl Johanna
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Juni 2017 12:24
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Betreff: AW: [pestlist] Please help me with ID of insect

Dear all,

I have open the frame and have now microscope images of the insects. I am quite 
sure, that Tony and Louis were right that these insects are thrips 
(Thysanoptera).
Because I found something that could be feeding tracks (see second picture) I 
am not sure what to do. I would clean the frame, the aquarelle and the 
passe-partout. Should I also treat the object with nitrogen?
What would you recommend??
Thanks for your help
Johanna

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Gesendet: Montag, 26. Juni 2017 21:42
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Hello Joanna,

It is difficult to identify a pest from the damage.  If possible, get a 
close-up image of the critter.  It will also help if you can give us an idea of 
the scale?  Measure it if possible.  Sorry that I cannot be of more help at 
this point.
Gretchen Anderson
Conservator
Carnegiemnh.org

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Hello Johanna,
Once you have the frame open, you can try using a piece of clear tape to 
capture the insect.  If a standard microscope is not readily available, a 
simple microscope attachment for the smartphone can be obtained for a very 
reasonable price.  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QLYPMZW?psc=1
Good luck!

Best,
Jessica

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Sorry!!

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Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juni 2017 14:41
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Now with images

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Dear Rich,
attached some more pictures. Have you any ideas?
The insects move, that means they are alive and they are very small (2mm). But 
we will open the pictureframe anyway to get a further view on the problem.
Thanks
Johanna
Kunsthistorisches Museum Wien

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Johanna,

The images are not of sufficient resolution or magnification to allow for an 
answer with any assurance. Please try to find a way to obtain better images. 
Alternatively, sample the physical material and consider submitting it for 
evaluation.

Best regards,
Rich

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Dear pest-list members,
I found two very small insects (approximate only 2mm long) in a frame of an 
aquarelle painting and some feeding traces. Could they be silverfishes? Please 
help me with the ID…
Thank you very much!

Johanna

Kunsthistorisches Museum Wien

Mag. Johanna Diehl
Restauratorin
Kunstkammer & Schatzkammer

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