Hi all,

I would welcome keeping the list open.  I rarely use Linux now (Mac instead) 
but i hope to start again, if only in a VM.  (Whether to not I succeed only 
time will tell)

I had already assumed that if I got stuck and could not find the answer 
elsewhere, that the PLUG would be there to help.

However do not keep it open for this reason - I may never get round to it!

😃  HOWEVER ….  What VM player would you suggest on a Mac, and where would I 
find ready made ISO’s to run it it?  😀  I wold be looking to running a Linux 
version.





Edward Kerr
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> On 15 Mar 2018, at 20:53, B D via Peterboro <peterboro@mailman.lug.org.uk> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I do concur with both George and Mark,
> 
> since we don't have a chance to get together to discuss what is our hobby, we 
> have very little chance to actually make a solid community. I, like majority 
> here, became a desktop user who does experience very little issues from now 
> very reliable and well documented OS like Ubuntu/Mint. It makes almost no 
> sense to ask technical questions on PLUG list due to the fact that so much 
> tech advice is available to hand on many forums.
> 
> I don't have time to actively take part in PLUG as daily commute, family life 
> and recently MCSA preparation take up most of my "free" time. I would opt for 
> this list to stay open and maybe think of a way to popularize/advertise it 
> existence to other possible users.
> 
> With many people experiencing lots of issues from Win10 (updates, system 
> crashes, etc.) there is still area where linux could prove useful and 
> attractive.
> 
> It's hard not to agree that desktops and possibly even laptops fall from 
> grace in recent years. More people moved to so much easier touch screen 
> devices (SMARTphones, tablets) as they don't require/allow for any system 
> interference/malfunction. Everyone is happy if they can install an app from 
> an app store, who this days thinks about OS updates!?
> 
> Keep the mailing list open... in 10 years time, when my kids as youth will 
> not won't to talk to me; when my wife will meet with her friends on regular 
> bases I'll take over and the Linux community in Peterborough will thrive 
> again. That's all providing that I'll get a different job and IT will be my 
> hobby once again.
> 
> Also did you noticed that a computer fair has popped up in Peterborough? 
> Earlier in Feb and last weekend there was a relatively big IT fair in Queen 
> Katharine Academy, maybe that is an reoccurring event? Old event poster: 
> http://www.qka.education/calendar/?calid=1&pid=3&viewid=1&event=29 
> <http://www.qka.education/calendar/?calid=1&pid=3&viewid=1&event=29>
> 
> @Mark
> To answer your question from ALUG regarding the boot to a single application, 
> you can try something called DietPi. OS that has an in built boot selection 
> from friendly looking blue/white command line prompts. If that's not what you 
> are after you can use LXDE and something like that:
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=90754 
> <https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=90754>
> obviously this will be less complicated as you want to start a browser rather 
> than presentation(+ ppt conversion).
> 
> 
> cheers,
> Bart
>  
> 
> 2018-03-13 22:41 GMT+00:00 Chris Sandles via Peterboro 
> <peterboro@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:peterboro@mailman.lug.org.uk>>:
> Hi Mark
> 
> I'm still happy to receive posts from Peterborough LUG, although I seldom 
> need to write them any more.  I think this is probably more to do with the 
> maturity of Linux-based systems these days, where all the headaches and 
> compatibility problems of the past are largely forgotten.  Nowadays, 
> everything pretty much works and very rarely do I have an issue that creates 
> a real problem.  That said, I speak purely as a desktop user.  I started 
> using Linux around 2006 when I tried Fedora Core 6 from a Linux magazine 
> coverdisk.  I was so impressed with this "new frontier" of computing, I 
> pretty much ditched Windows XP within a few years of multibooting, and since 
> 2008 have used various distros exclusively.  My early days were plagued with 
> the type of problems average Windows users would never have come across 
> (missing or non-existent hardware drivers, software incompatibilities when it 
> came to file formats, missing features or software to do certain jobs).  On 
> the other hand, blue screens of death became a thing of the past and feeling 
> part of a community that knew it was on to something quite special.
> 
> That rose-tinted glow has admittedly faded a little in recent years as I have 
> simply become accustomed to using Linux day-in, day-out.  For the most part 
> everything works, and I don't chop and change distros like I used to.  I 
> probably use the same software and rarely experiment unless looking for a 
> solution to a problem (ie. whilst learning accountancy using a study book 
> based on MS Excel, trying to find certain equivalent features in LibreOffice 
> and Gnumeric is occasionally a challenge!).
> I think it used to be something of a challenge to try and encourage Windows 
> users to try Linux, especially with said issues mentioned above, but these 
> days, the necessity to promote Free Software has been eroded by the advance 
> of smartphones and tablets.  Ironically, many Android users are also Linux 
> users without even knowing it.  There's still a place for Linux on the 
> desktop (and certainly in server rooms) but maybe it's not a battle worth 
> starting, let alone trying to win now.
> I would like this LUG to continue though, and I hope that there are others 
> locally who might find it useful just to know there are other Linux users out 
> there, even if we don't meet up or socialise any more.
> 
> Chris Sandles
> 
> 
> On 12/03/18 22:36, George Edward Fuller via Peterboro wrote:
>> On 12/03/18 21:03, Mark Rogers via Peterboro wrote:
>>> Is this LUG dead? Pushing up the daisies?
>>> 
>>> It's not a good sign when it's the person who manages the list asking the 
>>> question!
>>> 
>>> Is there any demand for a meet? I know we don't have a venue (and I'm not 
>>> offering one) but is there any demand that justifies trying to find one?
>>> 
>>> Are we all happy with using the list, and it's just we have nothing to say?
>>> 
>>> Just curious.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> I personally don't think the LUG is on a level with the Norwegian Blue. But 
>> with no social side, even an informal pub get together, it's difficult to 
>> encourage that sense of belonging, that keeps a group bonded. The answer to 
>> your question regretfully is that the Peterborough Lug is on life support, 
>> ‘condition critical’.
>> Questions posted on the monthly board are unfortunately almost always beyond 
>> my technical competence, though I have been a user, off and on, since the 
>> release of Fedora Core 4. Not before that because I had an Apple tower at 
>> the time, sporting a PowerPC chip. These days I prefer ‘deb’ based distro’s 
>> over ‘rpm’ ones for simplicity of use, and currently run Linux Mint.
>> I generally just use my system until something goes wrong and then search 
>> the web for a solution. My piffling little problems, usually caused by my 
>> own ignorance or stupidity, never seem serious enough to bother the 
>> professional system people who discuss issues way above my level on this 
>> list.
>> Now retired I seldom do anything more on my machine, than keep my own 
>> personal records up to date, and of course, roam the web.
>> I would like the LUG to have miraculous recovery and resurgence, and would 
>> like to support it, I’m just not sure how. Sorry I can’t be more upbeat 
>> about the prospects.
>> 
>> Best Wishes, George E Fuller.
>> 
>> 
> 
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