Hi db

Thanks for the suggestions. I have discovered that the Pi now has boot from USB enabled in its bootloader and it is a simple task to boot from USB which is what I have swapped to doing.  Though I found a 64Gb SD card and wrote the standard 32 bit OS to it using the laptop. Apparently using a USB stick is faster than an SD card, not that speed is hugely important to me at the moment but I do have other uses for a larger capacity SD card.


Thanks for the pointers to Pi projects.  I like to ask in case anybody has personal experience they can

pass on.


Regards

Nige





On 08/10/2022 14:30, dingo bongo via Peterboro wrote:
Hey

    The answer of course has to be order a bigger SD Card which is the
    next thing on my list to do once I get paid.

Not according to the RPi Foundation <https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/computers/getting-started.html>.

    Finally you’ll need an SD card
    
<https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/computers/getting-started.html#sd-cards>;
    we recommend a minimum of 8GB micro SD card, and to use the
    Raspberry Pi Imager <https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/> to
    install an operating system onto it.


16Gb is more than enough to run something, so you could just wipe the card and start again.
There is also a Lite version of RaspiOS if you can live without a GUI.
Other tiny OS's are available.

Alternatively, buy an external hard drive.
You can multiboot the Pi over USB with Ventoy (or similar).
Keep $HOME in a separate partition and you can distrohop.

    Any comments, suggestions etc. particularly about relatively easy
    projects with the Pi 4 will be gratefully received.

  * Or use the above HD as a NAS server.

  * PiHole is a lot easier to setup these days if you run stock RaspiOS.

  * "RPi4 beginner projects" as a search term will throw up loads of
    content, depends on what floats your boat.

  * If you threw similar terms into whatever social media you use,
    you'd find people to follow and learn from them.

Don't know what size card you are thinking about but a half decent 32-64Gb card is £5-15(ish).
For £30-40 you can pick up a 1Tb HD.
You might even have one in the house already.
There are more applications for a HD than an SD card, so more bang for your buck IMO.

For project inspiration try Hackaday <https://hackaday.com/>.

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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:58:48 +0100
From: Nigel Law <nig...@amasonsspace.com>
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Hi All

Having dug my Raspberry Pi 4 out I connected it up to the TV monitor and
powered it up. Eventually it showed me a screen in the account I must
have set up ages ago when I first got it. The first thing I did was
update it: That was a mistake because it just grabs every update going
and applies it.

Then on reboot a page of "Stuff" appears. You know the kind of Stuff you
really don't want to see when you reboot a box, the kind of Stuff that
tells you you have dropped a clanger !!

So I went looking for answers. Eventually found a Raspberry Pi site that
helpfully told me you should check how much usable space you have left
on that teeny weeny 16Gb Micro SD card BEFORE you update it because when
you set it to update it will AND it wont tell you there isn't enough
space, Oh no; you only find that out after you reboot it.

So I rebooted again and pressed the shift key to boot to the original
OS. Then I looked at the space taken up by the useful stuff and found
that more than 85% was in use! No wonder the masses of updates, and
there were a lot of them, were too much for the 16Gb SD card.

The answer of course has to be order a bigger SD Card which is the next
thing on my list to do once I get paid.

I was pleased to find that the OS is a Linux of some flavour (raspberry
I guess) though for the time being I am getting happy with the Cinnamon
flavoured Mint on my laptop.

Any comments, suggestions etc. particularly about relatively easy
projects with the Pi 4 will be gratefully received.

Kind regards

Nige aka Nigel Law
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On 2022-10-07 15:58, Nigel Law via Peterboro wrote:
> I was pleased to find that the OS is a Linux of some flavour
> (raspberry I guess) though for the time being I am getting happy with
> the Cinnamon flavoured Mint on my laptop.

Raspian is probably what you have, which is a Debian offshoot.



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