On Aug 13, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Jed Brown wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 23:09, Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> Not sure it is really a viewer? It is an AMS published memory (bunch of 
> fields) for the object, not sure if it makes sense to consider that a 
> subclass of PetscViewer
> 
> In the viewer/monitor case, some of those fields are stack, not heap. They 
> may be computed and thrown away. This makes them different in that in 
> addition to being read-only, they can only be accessed at the moment they are 
> published. Is this somehow not a relevant distinction?

   Well, you are argeeing with me. Publishing an object with AMS is different 
than viewing them and so AMS publishing is not a subclass of PetscViewer it is 
a separate thing.

>  
> 
> > that has the object, name, type, and help string for every piece of 
> > information being exposed?
> 
>   Yes, I think the only thing missing is the "help string" for each field.  
> For example currently it is
> 
> ierr = 
> AMS_Memory_add_field(obj->amem,"its",&ksp->its,1,AMS_INT,AMS_READ,AMS_COMMON,AMS_REDUCT_UNDEF);CHKERRQ(ierr);
> 
> "its" is the help string. We could have a convention that the string is done 
> as "variablename: useful message" for example  "its: the number of iterations 
> the Krylov solver is currently at" then the GUI can process it anyway it 
> wants.
> 
> Might be better to change the API now to distinguish the name and the help 
> string just like for options?

   You mean "change the AMS API"? Godzooks you are asking too much :-(  Reason, 
this information has to be propagated through all the AMS code which scares me 
too much to consider.

   Barry



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