On Oct 1, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Satish Balay <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, Barry Smith wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2014, at 9:55 PM, Satish Balay <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, Barry Smith wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 1, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Satish Balay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, Barry Smith wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For large changes that I especially expect to break portability issues I 
>>>>>> make a set of changes, merge into next to check on all machines and then 
>>>>>> fix the issues that come up in tests the next day. This can happen a few 
>>>>>> times. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now if I only did testing on my own machine during these several days, 
>>>>>> since my branch never touches another branch I can rebase it, I can 
>>>>>> reset some changes if I realize they are really stupid, then I could put 
>>>>>> a very nice commit into master with a great history.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How can I do this after I have put all the trash into next along the 
>>>>>> way? Is there a modification of the next model we can use that would 
>>>>>> allow me to have clearer histories? How do other groups handle this, we 
>>>>>> know Linus doesn’t allow ugly histories so how can the model work for 
>>>>>> them?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think its valid to 'git revert trash-branch' from next - and then
>>>>> 'git merge clean/rebased-branch' [per current workflow]
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://git-scm.com/blog/2010/03/02/undoing-merges.html
>>>>> git revert -m 1 [sha_of_C8]
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not sure what happens if there are multiple merges from the
>>>>> 'trash-branch' to next.  Perhaps we would have to revert each of the
>>>>> merge points [in the reverse order] - and then merge in the rebased
>>>>> branch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In this case - I think its ok to have the trashy history in the
>>>>> feature-branch - until its complete - and then do the 'rebase/cleanup’
>>>> 
>>>> Yes but then after it is put rebased/cleaned up and put into master won’t 
>>>> that cause grief because what in next is very different and merging master 
>>>> into next will be be problematic? Or is it not a problem?
>>> 
>>> No - because we reverted the messy stuff from next [before merging the
>>> cleaned stuff to next]. i.e
>> 
>>  But going over and doing all the reverts in next is busy work that I really 
>> don’t want to do (and as you say in your next email I may mess up). Better 
>> yet to toss next and get it clean from master
> 
> All 'integrator' operations need extra care [hence the restricted
> access control.]
> 
> And deleting/recreating next is a worse option [and more work] in my
> opinion then just doing the reverts as needed.
> 
> We are supporsed to be verifing stuff during general workflow steps
> [but sometimes we skimp]. All I meant to say is:for any revert - its
> more important to verify.
> 
> BTW: we revert only the 'merges' to next - not individual commits in
> next.  You might have 10-20 commits in the feature branch - but you
> might have merged to next only 2 or 3 times. [so It should be only 2-3
> reverts of the merges in next]
> 
> And then rebase/cleanup the featurebranch [and merge to next the final
> time]

  Ok, if this can be documented and made as simple as possible? A tool to do 
it? If it requires remember several arcane git commands to do and remember the  
numbers of 5 merges you made, then forget it.

  Barry


> 
> Satish
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> master contains: old-master + clean-feature
>>> 
>>> next contains  : old-next + messy-feature - messy-feature + clean-feature
>>> 
>>> [and we don't care about the messy history in next as its discarded at next 
>>> release]
>>> 
>>> Satish

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