I'd be happy to see pull requests that transfer the worst examples over to 
the test directory (and their output files!)

   I suspect different people may think different examples are worst but this 
could be sorted in a first pull request that move the worst of the worst


  Barry

> On Apr 21, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Hapla Vaclav <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 21 Apr 2019, at 11:29, Patrick Sanan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> The quickest fix would of course be to remove that limit. Some pages would 
>> probably end up with dozens of example links, but that might not be so bad, 
>> as below are only "implementations" (which are probably used mainly by 
>> (potential) developers), and links back to the indices. With some scripting 
>> one could make an html table (or whatever) to have more than one link per 
>> line to save space.
> 
> I agree with all, except I think a list is more clear than a table even 
> though it is long. I think the space is not an issue as everything relevant 
> for basic users is above.
> 
> I would even suggest to include a separate subsection with tests. Some 
> advanced routines might appear only there and it's still better to have a 
> list of tests than nothing.
> 
>> 
>> It would also be helpful to move some of the "bad" examples (which look more 
>> like tests in many cases) to the tests/ directories. 
>> There are papers out there which reference these examples, but those would 
>> of course be expected to be the "good" ones.
> 
> I feel that it's a chronic problem. Some tutorials should already be tests 
> because they already cover so many cases that they are becoming really 
> cluttered. In this case we could copy the tutorial to tests and keep only a 
> stripped-down, more didactic version in tutorials. Is this considered a right 
> way?
> 
>> 
>> Out of curiosity, is there any non-historical argument to have this sort of 
>> logic in bash, as opposed to python?
>> 
>> 
>> Am Sa., 20. Apr. 2019 um 23:37 Uhr schrieb Smith, Barry F. via petsc-dev 
>> <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>    Yeah this is done in lib/petsc/conf/rules
>> 
>> #
>> #   Example usage for manual pages; adds each example that uses a function 
>> to that functions
>> # manual page up to a limit of 10 examples.
>> #
>> manexamples:
>>         -@base=`basename ${LOCDIR}`; \
>>         if [ "$${base}" = "tutorials" ] ; then \
>>           echo "Generating manual example links" ; \
>>           for i in ${EXAMPLESC} ${EXAMPLESF} foo ; do \
>>             if [ "$$i" != "foo" ] ; then \
>>               a=`cat $$i | ${MAPNAMES} -map 
>> ${LOC}/docs/manualpages/manualpages.cit \
>>                    -printmatch-link -o /dev/null| cut -f 2 | cut -d '#' -f 1 
>> |sed -e s~^../~~ | grep \\.html$$ | sort | uniq` ;  \
>>               for j in $$a ; do \
>>                 b=`ls ${LOC}/docs/manualpages/$${j} | grep -v /all/ | cut 
>> -f9` ; \
>>                 l=`grep "^<A HREF=\"\.\./\.\./\.\..*/tutorials/" $${b} | wc 
>> -l`; \
>>                 if [ $$l -le 10 ] ; then \
>>                   if [ $$l -eq 0 ] ; then \
>>                     echo "<P><H3><FONT 
>> COLOR=\"#CC3333\">Examples</FONT></H3>" >> $$b; \
>>                   fi; \
>>                   echo  "<A HREF=\"../../../BB\">BB</A><BR>" | sed 
>> s?BB?${LOCDIR}$$i.html?g >> $$b; \
>>                   grep -v /BODY $$b > ltmp; \
>>                   echo "</BODY></HTML>" >> ltmp; \
>>                   mv -f ltmp $$b; \
>>                 fi; \
>>               done; \
>>             fi; \
>>           done; \
>>         fi
>> 
>> It has a hardwired limit of 10 (though it seems to produce 11 :-).
>> 
>> Given how many bad examples we have in the tutorial directories it is not a 
>> good model to just grab 10 of them.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Apr 20, 2019, at 3:49 AM, Hapla Vaclav via petsc-dev 
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hello
>> > 
>> > Why
>> > https://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-dev/docs/manualpages/SNES/SNESSolve.html#SNESSolve
>> > https://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-dev/docs/manualpages/SNES/SNESSetDM.html#SNESSetDM
>> > do not list ex62 and ex77
>> > https://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-dev/src/snes/examples/tutorials/ex62.c.html
>> > https://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-current/src/snes/examples/tutorials/ex77.c.html
>> > while these examples use these routines?
>> > 
>> > It affects both dev and current manpages. Is there a deliberate limit on 
>> > number of examples listed?
>> > 
>> > I think it's confusing. Particularly these examples are often used in 
>> > tutorials, right?
>> > 
>> > Thanks,
>> > Vaclav
>> 
> 

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