Hi Jed,

I'm mainly interested in the parameter limits -- I know how to specify them, 
but I don't see any explanation of valid values in the code. So for ex20, how 
large can beta get and still be meaningful? 

For ex29, are you saying that it's always generating a singular linear system, 
or only for low viscosity and resistivity?

Thanks!
Boyana

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On May 14, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Jed Brown wrote:

> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 02:53, Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> Do you know what the valid values for the various model parameters in snes 
> ex20 and ex29 are? We are looking for something we can vary similar to how we 
> change the lid velocity and grashof parameters in the driven cavity problems, 
> in order to generate linear systems with different characteristics.
> 
> The options are given in the help strings. Do you want the names of the 
> non-dimensional parameters? Do you want to know how various parameters affect 
> the system?
> 
> In the case of ex20, the exponent beta is the only free parameter. If 
> temperature is always positive, I believe there are no well-posedness issues 
> for any beta. Positive beta becomes degenerate as T -> 0, negative beta 
> becomes singular in that limit. It appears that the method works for all 
> positive beta. When beta is negative, this discretization (or maybe just the 
> line search) is not monotone so it may compute negative temperatures (program 
> crashes). Negative beta is physical for other heat transport problems.
> 
> I can't give a similarly detailed explanation of ex29, but low viscosity and 
> low resistivity should tend to make it less diffusive (closer to ideal MHD 
> which is hyperbolic). This discretization seems to produce singular linear 
> systems.

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