On Mar 20, 2013, at 6:14 PM, John Mousel <john.mousel at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can you comment on a GASM type approach to find a solution for the null 
> space? I notice that the null vectors that successfully make the true 
> residual drop are only complicated in a very thin band around the interface. 
> This band is easy to identify using a level set. Other than that, the null 
> space vector has a low frequency variation. My thought was to break the 
> matrix into two sub-matrices, and somehow apply GAMG as a preconditioner on 
> the far matrix, and ILU on the interface-adjacent matrix. Is this dumb or a 
> complete misunderstanding of GASM?
> 

The null space in GAMG is not a projection, it does not have to be exact.  Do 
you try using the 6 RBM or giving GAMG coordinates?

Also, you might try not smoothing the (-pc_gamg_nsmooths 0).  Unsymetric 
matrices can work better this way.


> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Jed Brown <jedbrown at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:04 PM, John Mousel <john.mousel at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've wanted to scrap this approach for a long time, but moving away from 
> these GFM-type treatments is not a choice that I've been allowed to follow 
> through on for various reasons which are out of my control.
> 
> Unless there are some clever tricks to characterize the null space or to keep 
> preconditioners compatible with the null space, the folks making the 
> decisions might have to reconsider. It doesn't matter how sexy a method looks 
> if it requires a solve and that solve cannot be done efficiently.
> 

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