On Thu, 18 Apr 2013, Jed Brown wrote: > Satish Balay <balay at mcs.anl.gov> writes: > > > Again 'minority usage. Since one would not care about following list > > except for 'when they post' - They would filter list traffic into a > > different folder - and look at that folder only when they post to that > > list. > > The problem is that you have to monitor _everything_ and you have to > draw a line after sending a message when you decide to stop paying > attention (changing your filters or not "checking that folder"). With > reply-all convention, you just email and rest assured that all messages > relevant to you will continue to Cc you.
Sure - there is cost for 'minority users. But to save that - you propose a cost to majority users [i.e everyone should conciously use 'reply-all'] > Does the list configuration have an API? If so, we could have a bot > monitoring petsc-users email and subscribing (without delivery) > addresses that are Cc'd in approved messages? you can check that. > > the whole argument is more archives and email-without subscribing. I > > don't buy the stuff about "subscribe with delivery" or reply-to is > > breaking stuff. > > What part don't you buy? If someone writes to the list, "reply-all" > from another list subscriber goes only to the list. That means they > can't distinguish mail that they are interested in from all the other > stuff on the list. see above > I hypothesize that a lot of people write petsc-maint > because they don't like the firehose implied by using petsc-users. > Turning off munging fixes the firehose problem. I submit that most petsc-maint users are familiar with petsc-maint - and continue to use it. New users do get confused between petsc-users & petsc-maint > When you approve a message, are you whitelisting the thread or the > author? If the author, it's equivalent to subscribe-without-delivery. > Maybe that is good enough? I've been doing subscribe-with-delivery. > Scrubbing large attachments is fine as long as we can deliver them to > people who opt in, or at least those who are currently on petsc-maint. Not sure if its possible to scrub just the attachments. If thats possible you can now configure mailman to do that. > > I don't know if there is an option for that. Currently all moderators > > get such emails. > > There is a difference between list "moderator" and "admin", right? Can > the current petsc-maint group be labeled as "moderator" so that we get > the attachments? Sure - you can set that up now. Satish
