Matt,

     I think you are running on 1 process where the DMDA doesn't have an 
optimized path, when I run on 2 processes the numbers indicate nothing 
proportional to dof* number of local points

dof = 12
~/Src/petsc/test  master $ petscmpiexec -n 2 ./ex1 -malloc_log | grep VecScatter
[0] 7 21344 VecScatterCreate()
[0] 2 32 VecScatterCreateCommon_PtoS()
[0] 39 182480 VecScatterCreate_PtoS()

dof = 8
~/Src/petsc/test  master $ petscmpiexec -n 2 ./ex1 -malloc_log | grep VecScatter
[0] 7 21344 VecScatterCreate()
[0] 2 32 VecScatterCreateCommon_PtoS()
[0] 39 176080 VecScatterCreate_PtoS()

dof = 4

~/Src/petsc/test  master $ petscmpiexec -n 2 ./ex1 -malloc_log | grep VecScatter
[0] 7 21344 VecScatterCreate()
[0] 2 32 VecScatterCreateCommon_PtoS()
[0] 39 169680 VecScatterCreate_PtoS()

dof = 2
~/Src/petsc/test  master $ petscmpiexec -n 2 ./ex1 -malloc_log | grep VecScatter
[0] 7 21344 VecScatterCreate()
[0] 2 32 VecScatterCreateCommon_PtoS()
[0] 39 166480 VecScatterCreate_PtoS()

dof =2 grid is 50 by 50 instead of 100 by 100

~/Src/petsc/test  master $ petscmpiexec -n 2 ./ex1 -malloc_log | grep VecScatter
[0] 7 6352 VecScatterCreate()
[0] 2 32 VecScatterCreateCommon_PtoS()
[0] 39 43952 VecScatterCreate_PtoS()

The IS creation in the DMDA is far more troubling

/Src/petsc/test  master $ petscmpiexec -n 2 ./ex1 -malloc_log | grep IS

dof = 2

[0] 1 20400 ISBlockSetIndices_Block()
[0] 15 3760 ISCreate()
[0] 4 128 ISCreate_Block()
[0] 1 16 ISCreate_Stride()
[0] 2 81600 ISGetIndices_Block()
[0] 1 20400 ISLocalToGlobalMappingBlock()
[0] 7 42016 ISLocalToGlobalMappingCreate()

dof = 4

~/Src/petsc/test  master $ petscmpiexec -n 2 ./ex1 -malloc_log | grep IS
[0] 1 20400 ISBlockSetIndices_Block()
[0] 15 3760 ISCreate()
[0] 4 128 ISCreate_Block()
[0] 1 16 ISCreate_Stride()
[0] 2 163200 ISGetIndices_Block()
[0] 1 20400 ISLocalToGlobalMappingBlock()
[0] 7 82816 ISLocalToGlobalMappingCreate()

dof = 8

~/Src/petsc/test  master $ petscmpiexec -n 2 ./ex1 -malloc_log | grep IS
[0] 1 20400 ISBlockSetIndices_Block()
[0] 15 3760 ISCreate()
[0] 4 128 ISCreate_Block()
[0] 1 16 ISCreate_Stride()
[0] 2 326400 ISGetIndices_Block()
[0] 1 20400 ISLocalToGlobalMappingBlock()
[0] 7 164416 ISLocalToGlobalMappingCreate()

dof = 12
~/Src/petsc/test  master $ petscmpiexec -n 2 ./ex1 -malloc_log | grep IS
[0] 1 20400 ISBlockSetIndices_Block()
[0] 15 3760 ISCreate()
[0] 4 128 ISCreate_Block()
[0] 1 16 ISCreate_Stride()
[0] 2 489600 ISGetIndices_Block()
[0] 1 20400 ISLocalToGlobalMappingBlock()
[0] 7 246016 ISLocalToGlobalMappingCreate()

Here the accessing of indices is at the point level (as well as block) and 
hence memory usage is proportional to dof* local number of grid points. Of 
course it is still only proportional to the vector size. There is some 
improvement we could make it; with a lot of refactoring we can remove the dof* 
completely, with a little refactoring we can bring it down to a single 
dof*local number of grid points.

   I cannot understand why you are seeing memory usage 7 times more than a 
vector. That seems like a lot.

   Barry



On Oct 21, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
>   The PETSc DMDA object greedily allocates several arrays of data used to set 
> up the communication and other things like local to global mappings even 
> before you create any vectors. This is why you see this big bump in memory 
> usage.
> 
>   BUT I don't think it should be any worse in 3.4 than in 3.3 or earlier; at 
> least we did not intend to make it worse. Are you sure it is using more 
> memory than in 3.3
> 
>   In order for use to decrease the memory usage of the DMDA setup it would be 
> helpful if we knew which objects created within it used the most memory.  
> There is some sloppiness in that routine of not reusing memory as well as 
> could be, not sure how much difference that would make.
> 
> 
>   Barry
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Juha Jäykkä <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Dear list members,
>> 
>> I have noticed strange memory consumption after upgrading to 3.4 series. I 
>> never had time to properly investigate, but here is what happens [yes, this 
>> might be a petsc4py issue, but I doubt it] is
>> 
>> # helpers contains _ProcessMemoryInfoProc routine which just digs the memory
>> # usage data from /proc
>> import helpers
>> procdata=helpers._ProcessMemoryInfoProc()
>> print procdata.rss/2**20, "MiB /", procdata.os_specific[3][1]
>> from petsc4py import PETSc
>> procdata=helpers._ProcessMemoryInfoProc()
>> print procdata.rss/2**20, "MiB /", procdata.os_specific[3][1]
>> da = PETSc.DA().create(sizes=[100,100,100],
>>                      proc_sizes=[PETSc.DECIDE,PETSc.DECIDE,PETSc.DECIDE],
>>                      boundary_type=[3,0,0],
>>                      stencil_type=PETSc.DA.StencilType.BOX,
>>                      dof=7, stencil_width=1, comm=PETSc.COMM_WORLD)
>> procdata=helpers._ProcessMemoryInfoProc()
>> print procdata.rss/2**20, "MiB /", procdata.os_specific[3][1]
>> vec=da.createGlobalVec()
>> procdata=helpers._ProcessMemoryInfoProc()
>> print procdata.rss/2**20, "MiB /", procdata.os_specific[3][1]
>> 
>> outputs
>> 
>> 48 MiB / 49348 kB
>> 48 MiB / 49360 kB
>> 381 MiB / 446228 kB
>> 435 MiB / 446228 kB
>> 
>> Which is odd: size of the actual data to be stored in the da is just about 
>> 56 
>> megabytes, so why does creating the da consume 7 times that? And why does 
>> the 
>> DA reserve the memory in the first place? I thought memory only gets 
>> allocated 
>> once an associated vector is created and it indeed looks like the 
>> createGlobalVec call does indeed allocate the right amount of data. But what 
>> is that 330 MiB that DA().create() consumes? [It's actually the .setUp() 
>> method that does the consuming, but that's not of much use as it needs to be 
>> called before a vector can be created.]
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Juha
>> 
> 

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