You can run with -snes_fd it will be slow so run with only two levels of 
grid sequencing; check the convergence rate of Newton on the finer grid. It 
will hopefully be much better (also KSP should converge in one iteration). Send 
the output

  Barry

> On Sep 8, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Gideon Simpson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I went through my code and nothing jumps out at me as clearly wrong.  Is 
> there a way to dump to disk vectors and matrices that would be useful for the 
> comparison?  I imagine I’d want the jacobian that I am specifying, but what 
> would I want to compare that against in terms of using -snes_mf_operator?
> 
> 
> -gideon
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Matthew Knepley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Gideon Simpson <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Just to clarify, again, during the linear solve phase, even though the PC 
>> residual norm was small (getting to 10^{-10} in 2-3 iterations) that the 
>> true residual norm could be comparatively large signified there is something 
>> wrong.  The one thing i was curious about is why it seems that there is only 
>> an issue during grid sequencing.  I’m not seeing that kind of behavior on 
>> the coarsest mesh.
>> 
>> That definitely sounds like a bug in the Jacobian evaluation. Maybe you 
>> assume a certain mesh size, and when
>> PETSc refines the DA and passes in the new one something goes wrong?
>> 
>>    Matt
>>  
>> -gideon
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 10:58 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 9:35 PM, Gideon Simpson <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Alright, I’ll take another look at what has been implemented in my 
>>>> Jacobian file.  One thing I’m a bit unclear about is do I need these  
>>>> -snes_mf and snes_mf_operator flags if I have, coded in,
>>>> 
>>>> SNESSetJacobian(snes,NULL,NULL,form_function_jacobian, ctx);
>>> 
>>> Gideon,
>>> 
>>>   In your case the DM creates that Jacobian matrix object and 
>>> form_function_jacobian's job is just to fill it up with the correct values 
>>> for the current solution value.   If you use -snes_mf_operator then SNES 
>>> uses a matrix-free multiple for the first matrix and your Jacobian to build 
>>> the preconditioner. With -snes_mf it uses a matrix-free multiple for the 
>>> first and second matrix and ignores what you compute. Since it is matrix 
>>> free in both it cannot build a preconditioner hence the -pc_type none
>>> 
>>>  Using -snes_mf and -snes_mf_operator are a way of testing if the Jacobian 
>>> you provide is correct
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Barry
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -gideon
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the Jacobian you provide is correct then using -snes_mf with a PC type 
>>>>> of LU should give two iterations (or at most three) to get very good 
>>>>> (10^-12) convergence of the linear system. Here you are not getting that 
>>>>> after a few SNES iterations. So I am strongly leaning to something wrong 
>>>>> with the Jacobian you provide.  -snes_type test unfortunately doesn't 
>>>>> catch all problems.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can try -snes_mf -pc_type none and see how the linear solver 
>>>>> converges. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Barry
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Gideon Simpson <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Off the top of my head, I can’t rule out a null space in this problem. I 
>>>>>> thought I did a pretty good job of coding the Jacobian by hand.  And 
>>>>>> before I made that change to the Jacobian file, changing J for Jpre, if 
>>>>>> I ran with  -snes_check_jacobian, it appeared to be satisfactory.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I run with -ksp_type fgmres, I get
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    0 SNES Function norm 3.857327250267e-09 
>>>>>>      0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.857327250267e-09 true resid 
>>>>>> norm 3.857327250267e-09 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>      1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.490987252203e-13 true resid 
>>>>>> norm 4.490987252203e-13 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.164274369485e-04
>>>>>>      2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 7.379711327483e-17 true resid 
>>>>>> norm 5.151515251741e-13 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.335514183139e-04
>>>>>>    1 SNES Function norm 2.479697868412e-12 
>>>>>>  Nonlinear solve converged due to CONVERGED_SNORM_RELATIVE iterations 1
>>>>>>  0 SNES Function norm 5.066222213176e+03 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.066222213176e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.066222213176e+03 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 8.556950606195e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 8.556950606090e-03 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.689019992814e-06
>>>>>>  1 SNES Function norm 8.484696862318e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 8.484696862318e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 8.484696862318e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.384145175257e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.384145175257e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.631343108325e-04
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.495757031958e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.605753181683e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.892528640374e-04
>>>>>>  2 SNES Function norm 6.551139809777e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.551139809777e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.551139809777e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.699223578306e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.699223578306e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 8.699590825096e-05
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.336876642454e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.919655452070e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.056252141306e-04
>>>>>>  3 SNES Function norm 5.771483337231e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.771483337231e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.771483337231e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.809574952128e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.809574952128e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 8.333342870631e-05
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 7.460582114169e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.436764219063e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.115270346107e-04
>>>>>>  4 SNES Function norm 5.237540245670e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.237540245670e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.237540245670e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.634190283952e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.634190283952e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.075732122271e-04
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.087123509737e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.710344480682e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.281201511765e-04
>>>>>>  5 SNES Function norm 4.753058321803e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.753058321803e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.753058321803e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 7.480046646239e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 7.480046646239e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.573733402750e-04
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.930291355515e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 8.744803271470e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.839826629384e-04
>>>>>>  6 SNES Function norm 4.221482124411e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.221482124411e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.221482124411e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.021730633747e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.021730633747e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.420312590781e-04
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.424059347969e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.186664050361e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.811012851384e-04
>>>>>>  7 SNES Function norm 3.803620028964e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.803620028964e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.803620028964e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.347601667746e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.347601667746e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.172019418000e-04
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.585189594479e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.804292032643e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 7.372692359618e-04
>>>>>>  8 SNES Function norm 3.769519577570e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.769519577570e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.769519577570e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.473450825400e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.473450825400e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.561713699852e-03
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.512219713818e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.900441161617e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 7.694458410235e-03
>>>>>>    3 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 9.156193230828e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.963280717470e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 7.861162825903e-03
>>>>>>  9 SNES Function norm 3.766389203406e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.766389203406e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.766389203406e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.885345065329e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.885345065329e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.031583528812e-02
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.541366781733e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.481523065039e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.189872533881e-02
>>>>>> 10 SNES Function norm 3.751822489648e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.751822489648e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.751822489648e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.504123802743e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.504123802743e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.467053363513e-03
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.266605004942e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.521599031098e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.738248291089e-03
>>>>>> 11 SNES Function norm 3.737189963925e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.737189963925e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.737189963925e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 7.988643057771e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 7.988643057771e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.137606901143e-02
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.764871173758e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 9.352795885660e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.502627903837e-02
>>>>>>    3 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.282807486232e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 9.151099849649e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.448657932292e-02
>>>>>> 12 SNES Function norm 3.737110331594e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.737110331594e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.737110331594e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.129801991140e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.129801991140e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 8.374925312429e-04
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.125627067813e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.626216163131e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 9.703262257137e-04
>>>>>> 13 SNES Function norm 3.684175513154e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.684175513154e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.684175513154e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.242155815449e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.242155815449e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.371597827014e-04
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.368849704689e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.448989111108e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.933007822060e-04
>>>>>> 14 SNES Function norm 3.509930783933e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.509930783933e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.509930783933e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.839683743117e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.839683743118e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 5.241367583483e-05
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 7.044153843783e-06 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.242253151407e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.388311591987e-05
>>>>>> 15 SNES Function norm 3.162121096565e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.162121096565e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.162121096565e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.154093218732e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.154093218732e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.812178132811e-05
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.294811898520e-06 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.535893281680e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 8.019595721477e-05
>>>>>> 16 SNES Function norm 2.890165052818e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.890165052818e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.890165052818e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.746945848272e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.746945848272e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.334450014089e-04
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.877255989792e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 7.701022876470e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.664561620438e-04
>>>>>> 17 SNES Function norm 2.816929421445e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.816929421445e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.816929421445e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.895856197699e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.895856197699e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.738011666329e-03
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.103295403077e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.924581730391e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.103205598723e-03
>>>>>>    3 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 8.552844644077e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.041340389186e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.144654510401e-03
>>>>>> 18 SNES Function norm 2.814407559738e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.814407559738e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.814407559738e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.709056815086e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.709056815086e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.072527801359e-04
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 7.267004791015e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.045719509609e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 7.268739392527e-04
>>>>>> 19 SNES Function norm 2.810261821835e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.810261821835e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.810261821835e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.414127232289e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.414127232290e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.282394893762e-04
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.134804652646e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 7.350062521045e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.615436919058e-04
>>>>>> 20 SNES Function norm 2.755723672077e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.755723672077e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.755723672077e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.096136080591e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.096136080591e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.212172483896e-02
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 9.111133958404e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.649792338356e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.413083868218e-02
>>>>>>    3 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.910677194353e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.843103003287e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.483232652325e-02
>>>>>>    4 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.788261382489e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.760631408983e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.453305270585e-02
>>>>>>    5 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.390068885512e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.776042197126e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.458897554129e-02
>>>>>>    6 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.384477406046e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.655789279547e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.415260044753e-02
>>>>>> 21 SNES Function norm 2.755720389981e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.755720389981e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.755720389981e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.357900039856e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.357900039856e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.944282903060e-02
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.929328578269e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.798140540809e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.104038044603e-02
>>>>>>    3 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.086022506600e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.986795329019e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.172497380643e-02
>>>>>>    4 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.109330548287e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.917768589366e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.147448852532e-02
>>>>>>    5 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.644882603935e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.000976794018e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.177643572198e-02
>>>>>>    6 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.950365335797e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.979808554437e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.169962009272e-02
>>>>>> 22 SNES Function norm 2.755716464881e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.755716464881e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.755716464881e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.907844411256e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.907844411256e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.780968569808e-02
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.044873964073e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.843433224469e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.120476942726e-02
>>>>>>    3 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.734069809407e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.888726835640e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.136913180542e-02
>>>>>>    4 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.325616228250e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.877722539415e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.132919919129e-02
>>>>>> 23 SNES Function norm 2.755713163168e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.755713163168e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.755713163168e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.846535958070e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.846535958070e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.484487881242e-02
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.481071550890e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 8.756034834835e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.177411550616e-02
>>>>>>    3 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 8.153960511371e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.077766099902e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.911024247035e-02
>>>>>>    4 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.272907968554e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.158585973964e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.204305402497e-02
>>>>>>    5 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.568557800847e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.111425590026e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.033168636275e-02
>>>>>>    6 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 9.535234538303e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.129251830278e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.097856937258e-02
>>>>>>    7 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.803098494703e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.144578323652e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.153474095018e-02
>>>>>>    8 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.151080788386e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.140343808626e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.138107782289e-02
>>>>>> 24 SNES Function norm 2.755712363532e+02 
>>>>>>    0 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.755712363532e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 2.755712363532e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>    1 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.232622501221e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.232622501221e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.535944954645e-01
>>>>>>    2 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.491207938618e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.073593758143e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.204001345902e-01
>>>>>>    3 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.873650490509e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 8.524306125765e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.093322161838e-01
>>>>>>    4 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.309932679768e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.074506397563e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.899196490108e-01
>>>>>>    5 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.024003774177e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.106165625327e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.014082311221e-01
>>>>>>    6 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.757785755885e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.126119690688e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.086492137535e-01
>>>>>>    7 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.609856365266e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.153615338633e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.186269052965e-01
>>>>>>    8 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.599697975830e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.145508733644e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.156851595993e-01
>>>>>>    9 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.599279687857e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.170294925221e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.246796366369e-01
>>>>>>   10 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.597803724329e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.141700721441e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.143032983230e-01
>>>>>>   11 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.596737615999e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.148307006855e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.167006041890e-01
>>>>>>   12 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.595710841264e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.156257644592e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.195857520885e-01
>>>>>>   13 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.586196423514e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.161164780969e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.213664663754e-01
>>>>>>   14 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.435157463728e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.495255918191e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 5.426023187246e-01
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>>>>>> 1.859375430783e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.747349452684e-01
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>>>>>> 2.168779675838e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 7.870123546051e-01
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>>>>>> 2.110752201996e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 7.659551954438e-01
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>>>>>> 2.654638231029e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 9.633219584739e-01
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>>>>>> 2.767219704819e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.004175813644e+00
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>>>>>> 2.770004820147e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.005186483468e+00
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>>>>>> 2.945037649612e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.068702847433e+00
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>>>>>> 2.546580529874e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 9.241097015692e-01
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>>>>>> 2.745281955063e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 9.962149865105e-01
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>>>>>> 3.018215534190e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.095257826663e+00
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>>>>>> 3.019791937262e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.095829875870e+00
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>>>>>> 2.951883280350e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.071187007546e+00
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>>>>>> 3.159367355815e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.146479363240e+00
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>>>>>> 3.075214639302e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.115941808731e+00
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>>>>>> 3.039070341991e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.102825673031e+00
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>>>>>> 2.958169749616e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.073468257705e+00
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>>>>>> 4.155548703507e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.507976216422e+00
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>>>>>> 4.078820152216e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.480132762110e+00
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>>>>>> 4.092157058207e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.484972492906e+00
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>>>>>> 4.058092915545e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.472611209083e+00
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>>>>>> 4.173468194199e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.514478887357e+00
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>>>>>> 4.173567919777e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.514515076032e+00
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>>>>>> 4.171544676107e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.513780876158e+00
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>>>>>> 4.156339669040e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.508263244032e+00
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>>>>>> 4.963291201426e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.801091894462e+00
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>>>>>> 7.811691813982e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.834726844992e+00
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>>>>>> 8.207296621168e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.978284936331e+00
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>>>>>> 7.936946934103e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.880179745585e+00
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>>>>>> 7.980559340873e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.896005928080e+00
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>>>>>> 8.192900430430e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.973060809557e+00
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>>>>>> 1.129061045316e+03 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.097165800964e+00
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>>>>>>  136 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 7.592632091308e-01 true resid norm 
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>>>>>>  137 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.118389339705e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.228512430071e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.458057547402e+02
>>>>>>  138 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.797543151006e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.229234787855e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.460678857932e+02
>>>>>>  139 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.399262290600e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.229194801786e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.460533755456e+02
>>>>>>  140 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.138136530735e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.229195079694e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.460534763934e+02
>>>>>>  141 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 9.664519186549e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.229194652988e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.460533215493e+02
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>>>>>> 1.229193617253e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.460529456992e+02
>>>>>>  143 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.682825851560e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.228841671660e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.459252307758e+02
>>>>>>  144 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.092809135755e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.228796781564e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.459089409424e+02
>>>>>>  145 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.946174382551e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.228841500560e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.459251686865e+02
>>>>>>  146 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.818582229493e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.228841540010e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.459251830023e+02
>>>>>>  147 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.804260791992e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.228796714990e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.459089167835e+02
>>>>>>  148 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.798036051442e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.228796718963e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.459089182254e+02
>>>>>>  149 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.789821323052e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.228796773320e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.459089379507e+02
>>>>>>  150 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.229170818997e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.229170818997e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.460446726091e+02
>>>>>>  151 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.504356443355e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.093690560218e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.968812473652e+02
>>>>>>  152 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.244195672870e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.113856786937e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.041992196565e+02
>>>>>>  153 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.225340186741e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.167038059368e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.234977767679e+02
>>>>>>  154 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.150472317241e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.129983837286e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.100514452234e+02
>>>>>>  155 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.442606181918e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.317599156335e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.781337754155e+02
>>>>>>  156 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.958747173080e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.296136243806e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.703452584377e+02
>>>>>>  157 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.611802792634e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.294308648863e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.696820560778e+02
>>>>>>  158 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.241244232472e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.282759745135e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.654911601482e+02
>>>>>>  159 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.768757317553e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.270072256023e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.608870914215e+02
>>>>>>  160 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.524612828404e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.262142455939e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.580095051436e+02
>>>>>>  161 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.597503632148e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.242919647286e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.510338828299e+02
>>>>>>  162 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.306334671172e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.206147954536e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.376900762568e+02
>>>>>>  163 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.002787050836e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.211953380536e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.397967641960e+02
>>>>>>  164 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 9.040547085337e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.240638488124e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.502060899178e+02
>>>>>>  165 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 8.266105040857e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.217296905722e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.417358363780e+02
>>>>>>  166 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 7.509799929433e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.289718047507e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.680162068343e+02
>>>>>>  167 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.343944680620e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.221356169338e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.432088724138e+02
>>>>>>  168 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.228561323994e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.235824610762e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.484592177023e+02
>>>>>>  169 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 7.102515984437e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.260712062655e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.574904403444e+02
>>>>>>  170 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.107553371402e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.263309363140e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.584329554341e+02
>>>>>>  171 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.628925898920e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.265842262310e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.593521004084e+02
>>>>>>  172 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 5.325842487623e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.259756868046e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.571438168645e+02
>>>>>>  173 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.313426816903e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.256922861858e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.561154053999e+02
>>>>>>  174 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.139644406511e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.255866327936e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.557320076492e+02
>>>>>>  175 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.059166270476e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.257317172899e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.562584940061e+02
>>>>>>  176 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.776505808733e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.255329189055e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.555370893087e+02
>>>>>>  177 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.752612693619e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.256961684336e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.561294934007e+02
>>>>>>  178 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.736705603634e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.259762625890e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.571459062857e+02
>>>>>>  179 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.732951008226e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.261329420233e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.577144686526e+02
>>>>>>  180 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 1.264843142503e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.264843142503e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.589895372396e+02
>>>>>>  181 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 8.819854345872e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 7.421586684795e+04 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.693164490971e+02
>>>>>>  182 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.820284360474e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 8.845099857884e+04 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.209732617575e+02
>>>>>>  183 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.649169133527e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 9.695307886076e+04 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.518258296613e+02
>>>>>>  184 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.331239588602e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.276316752783e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.631531104891e+02
>>>>>>  185 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 6.252299705504e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.347343905085e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.889276264515e+02
>>>>>>  186 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.853904613639e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.201242844765e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.161675248524e+03
>>>>>>  187 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.219140436114e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.404707106043e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.598391459258e+03
>>>>>>  188 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.684315504592e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.833177649269e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.753875953539e+03
>>>>>>  189 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.534967798134e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.018821663043e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.821242931396e+03
>>>>>>  190 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.341243925885e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.145529395860e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.867222959825e+03
>>>>>>  191 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.297183308133e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.078118375180e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.842760675019e+03
>>>>>>  192 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.295138974490e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.020778987445e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.821953210316e+03
>>>>>>  193 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.293118332758e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.057675768439e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.835342409233e+03
>>>>>>  194 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.290271250575e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.144670419966e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.866911252440e+03
>>>>>>  195 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.286831121629e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.172060400320e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.876850599056e+03
>>>>>>  196 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.286666518120e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.153103889545e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.869971611602e+03
>>>>>>  197 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.285912278860e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 5.129767922689e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.861503395846e+03
>>>>>>  198 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.252356305725e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.939344872669e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.792402189007e+03
>>>>>>  199 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.251630298846e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.923429687750e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.786626845713e+03
>>>>>>  200 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.251525291518e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.857429030576e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.762676357249e+03
>>>>>>  201 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.222149134412e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.182795797840e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.243628863324e+03
>>>>>>  202 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.207404984650e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 7.562732670579e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.744383909824e+03
>>>>>>  203 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.207333995935e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 7.589334030780e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.754037079927e+03
>>>>>>  204 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.206223457945e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 7.704831042122e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.795948932873e+03
>>>>>>  205 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.204876215451e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 7.555220845092e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.741657999243e+03
>>>>>>  206 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.200091356228e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 6.828836413819e+05 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.478065745971e+03
>>>>>>  207 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 3.086109249513e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 1.425824444777e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 5.174068468269e+03
>>>>>>  208 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.947470103154e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 3.821305546130e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.386685198608e+04
>>>>>>  209 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 2.923482810424e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.118347357287e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.494476496091e+04
>>>>>>  210 KSP unpreconditioned resid norm 4.363951081769e+06 true resid norm 
>>>>>> 4.363951081769e+06 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.583601808200e+04
>>>>>> Nonlinear solve did not converge due to DIVERGED_LINEAR_SOLVE iterations 
>>>>>> 24
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -gideon
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 10:03 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is there any chance your Jacobian may have a null space? (For example 
>>>>>>> with Neumann boundary conditions there is often a nullspace)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If not run with with -ksp_type fgmres and send the same output.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Something is screwy with the linear system convergence, could be 
>>>>>>> several things including either a null space problem or that your 
>>>>>>> Jacobian that you provide is terribly wrong.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 21 SNES Function norm 2.987064584431e+02 
>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.076322725615e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>> 2.987064584431e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.990965035897e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>> 1.933504170956e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.472923890006e-01
>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 6.941661213523e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>> 7.058455368301e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.363007283167e-01
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 8:49 PM, Gideon Simpson <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Got it, fixing that, and returning to the original question, this is 
>>>>>>>> what I now get, when I use those two flags:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   0 SNES Function norm 1.132185384796e-08 
>>>>>>>>     0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.846486104194e-09 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.132185384796e-08 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>     1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.813743504021e-14 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 4.325870388320e-13 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.820814547168e-05
>>>>>>>>   1 SNES Function norm 2.177599365111e-12 
>>>>>>>> Nonlinear solve converged due to CONVERGED_SNORM_RELATIVE iterations 1
>>>>>>>> 0 SNES Function norm 5.066222213176e+03 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.135087050041e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 5.066222213176e+03 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.498184175046e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 4.217739703330e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 8.325216553590e-05
>>>>>>>> 1 SNES Function norm 8.482593852817e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.667293100105e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 8.482593852817e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 8.682642450862e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.946982065167e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.474152029792e-03
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 8.943933962588e-08 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.594643891705e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.879901265314e-04
>>>>>>>> 2 SNES Function norm 6.543140468549e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.538341367076e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 6.543140468549e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 8.294478035133e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.460794611648e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.760876942007e-04
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.879002692918e-08 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 6.977344225129e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.066360145968e-04
>>>>>>>> 3 SNES Function norm 5.766430557220e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.362249760236e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 5.766430557220e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.565721843210e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 5.601235825427e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 9.713523417730e-04
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 6.900043171759e-08 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 6.087965439352e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.055759777030e-04
>>>>>>>> 4 SNES Function norm 5.235211958260e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.533523981591e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 5.235211958260e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.030969535942e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.160110525368e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.036260901303e-04
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.066614364159e-08 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 6.884372743978e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.315013183586e-04
>>>>>>>> 5 SNES Function norm 4.752913229649e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.848133067820e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 4.752913229649e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.745259702307e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 4.900437912538e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.031038791529e-03
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.045643600156e-07 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 8.388613982820e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.764941537432e-04
>>>>>>>> 6 SNES Function norm 4.220255380391e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.549151165192e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 4.220255380391e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.794436126782e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 7.053097905720e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.671249076180e-03
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.890094997586e-07 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.285407273503e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.045804477795e-04
>>>>>>>> 7 SNES Function norm 3.805408907074e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 5.225410707531e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.805408907074e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.810631909992e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.341273724704e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.152489211741e-04
>>>>>>>> 8 SNES Function norm 3.764619752339e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 6.256830807263e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.764619752339e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.034356591467e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.404676339819e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.731256892403e-02
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.014544916729e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.741004783833e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 9.937271304780e-03
>>>>>>>> 9 SNES Function norm 3.761182227091e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.988264999623e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.761182227091e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.115167379340e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 6.409965438916e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.704242190858e-02
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.515961219888e-06 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.115087826060e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 5.623465438140e-03
>>>>>>>> 10 SNES Function norm 3.740017190063e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.142561025658e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.740017190063e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.746046512685e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 7.402316700861e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.979219967365e-03
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.588755510089e-06 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 6.682186870202e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.786672769301e-03
>>>>>>>> 11 SNES Function norm 3.725903477238e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.435759974780e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.725903477238e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 7.389097536786e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 9.211825929813e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.472373744003e-02
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.785754916084e-06 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 8.219867808452e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.206140835013e-03
>>>>>>>> 12 SNES Function norm 3.716162097231e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.010267719047e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.716162097231e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.404383077173e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.467625408789e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.640252346978e-03
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 8.431973894553e-07 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.411034602455e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.487969414067e-04
>>>>>>>> 13 SNES Function norm 3.674168632847e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.697546464095e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.674168632847e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.100811362173e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.260981844274e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.432019513205e-03
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 8.921252511737e-07 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.549846956307e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.218224886174e-04
>>>>>>>> 14 SNES Function norm 3.532395445266e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.455211776575e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.532395445266e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.681410748806e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 7.130040117764e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.018471665543e-04
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.060849362790e-07 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.654058947496e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 7.513481966050e-05
>>>>>>>> 15 SNES Function norm 3.182438872366e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.515566740696e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.182438872366e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.959786024091e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 5.035985128637e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.582429492163e-03
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.945498964959e-07 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 8.727232650514e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.742309593531e-04
>>>>>>>> 16 SNES Function norm 3.091759892779e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 7.834551377727e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.091759892779e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.992168699741e-02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 5.040095342951e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.630170361781e-03
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.192091055088e-07 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 4.561900072730e-02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.475502701029e-04
>>>>>>>> 17 SNES Function norm 2.987839504359e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 9.384044359119e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987839504359e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.206851078700e-01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.939469657735e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.491210973364e-03
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.074373330828e-06 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 5.530732277225e-01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.851080778990e-03
>>>>>>>> 18 SNES Function norm 2.987073622777e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 9.576546391157e+03 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987073622777e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.670797073017e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.409551583039e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.141435402542e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.278475684614e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 6.179819087650e+00 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.068853958110e-02
>>>>>>>> 19 SNES Function norm 2.987067936734e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.381986890301e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987067936734e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.870471171439e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.593775594691e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 8.683349858880e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.628164409392e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.546845295549e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 8.526238269403e-02
>>>>>>>> 20 SNES Function norm 2.987067502910e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.191539882357e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987067502910e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.528735548091e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.390234679490e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 4.654178983689e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 5.890475574699e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.018047198868e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.408182767468e-02
>>>>>>>> 21 SNES Function norm 2.987064584431e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.076322725615e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987064584431e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.990965035897e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.933504170956e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.472923890006e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 6.941661213523e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 7.058455368301e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.363007283167e-01
>>>>>>>> 22 SNES Function norm 2.987064525262e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.312500251239e+06 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987064525262e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.194187039215e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.898773744566e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 9.704422921065e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.998846844269e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.698070936922e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 9.032516419058e-02
>>>>>>>> 23 SNES Function norm 2.987064121622e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.022854344216e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987064121622e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 8.602644501358e+00 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 8.634709464365e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.890701073962e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 9.288860381060e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 4.471246585837e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.496869971244e-01
>>>>>>>> 24 SNES Function norm 2.987063973426e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.876191744212e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987063973426e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.701586788162e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 4.356767962106e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.458545247395e+00
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.533781032398e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.001779383020e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.353725905879e-01
>>>>>>>> 25 SNES Function norm 2.987063920553e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.373321357604e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987063920553e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.804687152206e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.541993895057e+03 ||r(i)||/||b|| 8.510008364956e+00
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.556287913942e-03 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 8.346997816018e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.794382054761e+00
>>>>>>>> 26 SNES Function norm 2.987063919786e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.292036277396e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987063919786e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.282180994978e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.073562667335e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.941808823037e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.163542587614e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.367571914844e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 7.926083868380e-02
>>>>>>>> 27 SNES Function norm 2.987063393145e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.447152171843e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987063393145e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.283727214797e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.070985084809e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.933180894527e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.585761865240e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 4.702442627021e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.574269443967e-01
>>>>>>>> 28 SNES Function norm 2.987063253277e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.785016507221e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987063253277e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.095374466008e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.817886040589e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.278140339479e+00
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 9.617782709610e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.003348221878e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.358978825700e-01
>>>>>>>> 29 SNES Function norm 2.987063197153e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.669977278077e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987063197153e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.767902454807e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.821167168096e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 9.444618281879e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 6.086718418040e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.840415528667e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.161287549660e-01
>>>>>>>> 30 SNES Function norm 2.987063193089e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.136061088127e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987063193089e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.186362823355e+02 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.132640635624e+03 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.791820133718e+00
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 6.719259676319e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 6.778160111686e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.269171983830e+00
>>>>>>>> 31 SNES Function norm 2.987063192061e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.691271219294e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987063192061e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.462251245099e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 4.074982952445e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.364210493864e+00
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.183786013104e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 7.539314959670e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.523989107331e-01
>>>>>>>> 32 SNES Function norm 2.987063094492e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.124446369819e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987063094492e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 8.973907556421e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 8.420449781516e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.818972855660e+00
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 7.374208523915e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.422646074110e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 8.110461672459e-01
>>>>>>>> 33 SNES Function norm 2.987063089942e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.329193031679e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987063089942e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.183766435760e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.005487212339e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.713909790161e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 6.941412108263e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.615656494311e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 8.756616166289e-02
>>>>>>>> 34 SNES Function norm 2.987062660109e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.096972895505e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987062660109e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.733316558393e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.375691658619e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.130104066346e+00
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.068548659549e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.231989034216e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.081995726898e-01
>>>>>>>> 35 SNES Function norm 2.987062107900e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 6.499649833972e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987062107900e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.096524448730e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.899705639690e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 9.707550546139e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.801709551672e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 7.425681993520e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.485948308166e-01
>>>>>>>> 36 SNES Function norm 2.987062055224e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 8.633609234208e+04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987062055224e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.229972441154e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.120738026723e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 3.751974368137e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 5.664496361269e-05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.120682958584e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.044733219763e-01
>>>>>>>> 37 SNES Function norm 2.987061774798e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.344743984989e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987061774798e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.372624802517e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.243904583149e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 7.512079603043e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.527665232153e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 7.229322099941e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.420211781669e-01
>>>>>>>> 38 SNES Function norm 2.987061715400e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 5.756130938265e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987061715400e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.629319937995e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 4.389108492088e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.469373220332e+00
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 8.099878702234e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.923430480373e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 6.439205693195e-01
>>>>>>>> 39 SNES Function norm 2.987061699634e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 2.326428261777e+05 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987061699634e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.756089168490e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 1.659759863394e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 5.556496752635e-01
>>>>>>>>   2 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.956105557949e-04 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 6.351047187913e+01 ||r(i)||/||b|| 2.126185471392e-01
>>>>>>>> 40 SNES Function norm 2.987061630064e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.133259484912e+07 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987061630064e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.296568492777e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.022811302762e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.011968173786e+00
>>>>>>>> 41 SNES Function norm 2.987061630064e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 4.124224624453e+07 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987061630064e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.219934148122e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.144341309207e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.052653643822e+00
>>>>>>>> 42 SNES Function norm 2.987061630064e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 5.748707463105e+08 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987061630064e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.291843121908e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.293271430969e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.102512046562e+00
>>>>>>>> 43 SNES Function norm 2.987061630064e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.022718794881e+09 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987061630064e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.314705152175e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.015751234379e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.009604624165e+00
>>>>>>>> 44 SNES Function norm 2.987061630064e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 5.380361366230e+08 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987061630064e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.237699578864e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.185658867057e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.066485818369e+00
>>>>>>>> 45 SNES Function norm 2.987061630064e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 6.303672864381e+08 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987061630064e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.789746869236e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 4.518602376852e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.512724856888e+00
>>>>>>>> 46 SNES Function norm 2.987061630064e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.428971983722e+09 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987061630064e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.314776104627e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.999404779745e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.004132204557e+00
>>>>>>>> 47 SNES Function norm 2.987061630064e+02 
>>>>>>>>   0 KSP preconditioned resid norm 5.189185292378e+09 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 2.987061630064e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.000000000000e+00
>>>>>>>>   1 KSP preconditioned resid norm 3.191097159135e+01 true resid norm 
>>>>>>>> 3.466943097246e+02 ||r(i)||/||b|| 1.160653353233e+00
>>>>>>>> Nonlinear solve did not converge due to DIVERGED_LINE_SEARCH 
>>>>>>>> iterations 47
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -gideon
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This indicates that somewhere in your ComputeJacobian you are setting 
>>>>>>>>> matrix entries with the first Mat argument when you should always set 
>>>>>>>>> them with the second matrix argument. For example if you have
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ComputeJacobian(SNES snes,Vec x, Mat J, Mat jpre,void *ctx)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> you should call all the MatSetValues() with jpre, no J. Then at the 
>>>>>>>>> end of the function you should call MatAssemblyBegin/End() on jpre 
>>>>>>>>> then on J if J is not == jpre  see for example 
>>>>>>>>> src/snes/examples/tutorials/ex1.c
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This is a minor glitch we'll get past.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Gideon Simpson 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> By the way, I tried using a different petsc installation, and now, 
>>>>>>>>>> rather than the segmentation fault, I get the following error:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: --------------------- Error Message 
>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: No support for this operation for this object type
>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Mat type mffd
>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: See 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/faq.html for trouble 
>>>>>>>>>> shooting.
>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 3.5.4, May, 23, 2015 
>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: ./blowup_batch_refine on a arch-darwin-c-debug named 
>>>>>>>>>> gs_air by gideon Mon Sep  7 21:32:18 2015
>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Configure options --download-mpich=yes 
>>>>>>>>>> --download-suitesparse=yes --download-superlu=yes 
>>>>>>>>>> --download-superlu_dist=yes --download-mumps=yes 
>>>>>>>>>> --download-sprng=yes --with-cxx=clang++ --with-cc=clang 
>>>>>>>>>> --with-fc=gfortran --download-metis=yes --download-parmetis=yes 
>>>>>>>>>> --download-scalapack=yes
>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: #3892 MatSetValues() line 1116 in 
>>>>>>>>>> /opt/petsc-3.5.4/src/mat/interface/matrix.c
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -gideon
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 9:22 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok you can try running it directly in the debugger since it is one 
>>>>>>>>>>> process, type
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> gdb ./blowup_batch_refine
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> then 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> when the debugger comes up (if it does not cut and paste all output 
>>>>>>>>>>> and send it)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> run -on_error_abort -snes_mf_operator  and any other options you 
>>>>>>>>>>> normally use
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Gideon Simpson 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Running with that flag gives me this:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: PETSC: Attaching gdb to ./blowup_batch_refine of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> pid 16111 on gs_air
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to start debugger: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -gideon
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should not happen. Run with a debug version of PETSc 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed and the option -start_in_debugger noxterm  Once the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> debugger starts up type cont and when it crashes type where or bt 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Send all output
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Gideon Simpson 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m getting an error with -snes_mf_operator, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 SNES Function norm 1.421454390131e-02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 11 SEGV: Segmentation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Violation, probably memory access out of range
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -on_error_attach_debugger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: or see 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/faq.html#valgrind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: or try http://valgrind.org on GNU/linux and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Mac OS X to find memory corruption errors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: configure using --with-debugging=yes, recompile, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link, and run 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: to get more information on the crash.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: --------------------- Error Message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Signal received
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: See 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/faq.html for trouble 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 3.5.3, unknown 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: ./blowup_batch_refine on a arch-macports named 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gs_air by gideon Mon Sep  7 21:08:19 2015
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Configure options --prefix=/opt/local 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --prefix=/opt/local/lib/petsc --with-valgrind=0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --with-shared-libraries --with-debugging=0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --with-c2html-dir=/opt/local --with-x=0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --with-blas-lapack-lib=/System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/Current/Accelerate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  --with-hwloc-dir=/opt/local --with-suitesparse-dir=/opt/local 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --with-superlu-dir=/opt/local --with-metis-dir=/opt/local 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --with-parmetis-dir=/opt/local --with-scalapack-dir=/opt/local 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --with-mumps-dir=/opt/local --with-superlu_dist-dir=/opt/local 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CC=/opt/local/bin/mpicc-mpich-mp 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CXX=/opt/local/bin/mpicxx-mpich-mp 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FC=/opt/local/bin/mpif90-mpich-mp 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F77=/opt/local/bin/mpif90-mpich-mp 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F90=/opt/local/bin/mpif90-mpich-mp COPTFLAGS=-Os CXXOPTFLAGS=-Os 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOPTFLAGS=-Os LDFLAGS="-L/opt/local/lib 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Wl,-headerpad_max_install_names" CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/local/include 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CFLAGS="-Os -arch x86_64" CXXFLAGS=-Os FFLAGS=-Os FCFLAGS=-Os 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F90FLAGS=-Os PETSC_ARCH=arch-macports 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --with-mpiexec=mpiexec-mpich-mp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: #1 User provided function() line 0 in  unknown 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, 59) - process 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -gideon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My guess is the Jacobian is not correct (or correct "enough"), 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence PETSc SNES is generating a poor descent direction. You 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can try 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -snes_mf_operator -ksp_monitor_true residual as additional 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arguments. What happens?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Gideon Simpson 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No problem Matt, I don’t think we had previously discussed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that output.  Here is a case where things fail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 SNES Function norm 4.027481756921e-09 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 SNES Function norm 1.760477878365e-12 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonlinear solve converged due to CONVERGED_SNORM_RELATIVE 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iterations 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 SNES Function norm 5.066222213176e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 SNES Function norm 8.484697184230e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 SNES Function norm 6.549559723294e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 SNES Function norm 5.770723278153e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 SNES Function norm 5.237702240594e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 SNES Function norm 4.753909019848e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 SNES Function norm 4.221784590755e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 SNES Function norm 3.806525080483e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 SNES Function norm 3.762054656019e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9 SNES Function norm 3.758975226873e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 SNES Function norm 3.757032042706e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 SNES Function norm 3.728798164234e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 SNES Function norm 3.723078741075e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 SNES Function norm 3.721848059825e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 SNES Function norm 3.720227575629e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15 SNES Function norm 3.720051998555e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16 SNES Function norm 3.718945430587e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17 SNES Function norm 3.700412694044e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18 SNES Function norm 3.351964889461e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19 SNES Function norm 3.096016086233e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 SNES Function norm 3.008410789787e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21 SNES Function norm 2.752316716557e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22 SNES Function norm 2.707658474165e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 23 SNES Function norm 2.698436736049e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24 SNES Function norm 2.618233857172e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25 SNES Function norm 2.600121920634e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26 SNES Function norm 2.585046423168e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 27 SNES Function norm 2.568551090220e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 28 SNES Function norm 2.556404537064e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 29 SNES Function norm 2.536353523683e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30 SNES Function norm 2.533596070171e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 31 SNES Function norm 2.532324379596e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 32 SNES Function norm 2.531842335211e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 33 SNES Function norm 2.531684527520e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 34 SNES Function norm 2.531637604618e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 35 SNES Function norm 2.531624767821e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 36 SNES Function norm 2.531621359093e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 37 SNES Function norm 2.531620504925e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 38 SNES Function norm 2.531620350055e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 39 SNES Function norm 2.531620310522e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 40 SNES Function norm 2.531620300471e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 41 SNES Function norm 2.531620298084e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 42 SNES Function norm 2.531620297478e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 43 SNES Function norm 2.531620297324e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 44 SNES Function norm 2.531620297303e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 45 SNES Function norm 2.531620297302e+02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonlinear solve did not converge due to DIVERGED_LINE_SEARCH 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iterations 45
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 SNES Function norm 9.636339304380e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 SNES Function norm 8.997731184634e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 SNES Function norm 8.120498349232e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 SNES Function norm 7.322379894820e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 SNES Function norm 6.599581599149e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 SNES Function norm 6.374872854688e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 SNES Function norm 6.372518007653e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 SNES Function norm 6.073996314301e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 SNES Function norm 5.635965277054e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9 SNES Function norm 5.155389064046e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 SNES Function norm 5.080567902638e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 SNES Function norm 5.058878643969e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 SNES Function norm 5.058835649793e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 SNES Function norm 5.058491285707e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 SNES Function norm 5.057452865337e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15 SNES Function norm 5.057226140688e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16 SNES Function norm 5.056651272898e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17 SNES Function norm 5.056575190057e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18 SNES Function norm 5.056574632598e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19 SNES Function norm 5.056574520229e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 SNES Function norm 5.056574492569e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21 SNES Function norm 5.056574485124e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22 SNES Function norm 5.056574483029e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 23 SNES Function norm 5.056574482427e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24 SNES Function norm 5.056574482302e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25 SNES Function norm 5.056574482287e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26 SNES Function norm 5.056574482282e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 27 SNES Function norm 5.056574482281e+03 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonlinear solve did not converge due to DIVERGED_LINE_SEARCH 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iterations 27
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNES Object: 1 MPI processes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type: newtonls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maximum iterations=50, maximum function evaluations=10000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tolerances: relative=1e-08, absolute=1e-50, solution=1e-08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total number of linear solver iterations=28
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total number of function evaluations=323
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total number of grid sequence refinements=2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNESLineSearch Object:   1 MPI processes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type: bt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpolation: cubic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alpha=1.000000e-04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maxstep=1.000000e+08, minlambda=1.000000e-12
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tolerances: relative=1.000000e-08, absolute=1.000000e-15, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lambda=1.000000e-08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maximum iterations=40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KSP Object:   1 MPI processes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type: gmres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GMRES: restart=30, using Classical (unmodified) Gram-Schmidt 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orthogonalization with no iterative refinement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GMRES: happy breakdown tolerance 1e-30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maximum iterations=10000, initial guess is zero
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tolerances:  relative=1e-05, absolute=1e-50, divergence=10000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left preconditioning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using PRECONDITIONED norm type for convergence test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC Object:   1 MPI processes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type: lu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LU: out-of-place factorization
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tolerance for zero pivot 2.22045e-14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matrix ordering: nd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> factor fill ratio given 0, needed 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Factored matrix follows:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Mat Object:           1 MPI processes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     type: seqaij
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     rows=15991, cols=15991
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     package used to perform factorization: mumps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     total: nonzeros=255801, allocated nonzeros=255801
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls =0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       MUMPS run parameters:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         SYM (matrix type):                   0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         PAR (host participation):            1 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(1) (output for error):         6 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(2) (output of diagnostic msg): 0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(3) (output for global info):   0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(4) (level of printing):        0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(5) (input mat struct):         0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(6) (matrix prescaling):        7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(7) (sequentia matrix ordering):6 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(8) (scalling strategy):        77 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(10) (max num of refinements):  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(11) (error analysis):          0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(12) (efficiency control):                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  1 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(13) (efficiency control):                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(14) (percentage of estimated workspace 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increase): 20 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(18) (input mat struct):                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(19) (Shur complement info):                      
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(20) (rhs sparse pattern):                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(21) (somumpstion struct):                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(22) (in-core/out-of-core facility):              
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(23) (max size of memory can be allocated 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locally):0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(24) (detection of null pivot rows):              
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(25) (computation of a null space basis):         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(26) (Schur options for rhs or solution):         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(27) (experimental parameter):                    
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  -8 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(28) (use parallel or sequential ordering):       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  1 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(29) (parallel ordering):                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(30) (user-specified set of entries in inv(A)):   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(31) (factors is discarded in the solve phase):   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ICNTL(33) (compute determinant):                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         CNTL(1) (relative pivoting threshold):      0.01 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         CNTL(2) (stopping criterion of refinement): 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.49012e-08 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         CNTL(3) (absomumpste pivoting threshold):      0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         CNTL(4) (vamumpse of static pivoting):         -1 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         CNTL(5) (fixation for null pivots):         0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         RINFO(1) (local estimated flops for the elimination 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after analysis): 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           [0] 1.95838e+06 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         RINFO(2) (local estimated flops for the assembly after 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> factorization): 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           [0]  143924 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         RINFO(3) (local estimated flops for the elimination 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after factorization): 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           [0]  1.95943e+06 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFO(15) (estimated size of (in MB) MUMPS internal 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data for running numerical factorization): 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         [0] 7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFO(16) (size of (in MB) MUMPS internal data used 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during numerical factorization): 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           [0] 7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFO(23) (num of pivots eliminated on this processor 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after factorization): 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           [0] 15991 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         RINFOG(1) (global estimated flops for the elimination 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after analysis): 1.95838e+06 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         RINFOG(2) (global estimated flops for the assembly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after factorization): 143924 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         RINFOG(3) (global estimated flops for the elimination 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after factorization): 1.95943e+06 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         (RINFOG(12) RINFOG(13))*2^INFOG(34) (determinant): 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (0,0)*(2^0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(3) (estimated real workspace for factors on all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processors after analysis): 255801 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(4) (estimated integer workspace for factors on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all processors after analysis): 127874 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(5) (estimated maximum front size in the complete 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tree): 11 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(6) (number of nodes in the complete tree): 3996 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(7) (ordering option effectively use after 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analysis): 6 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(8) (structural symmetry in percent of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permuted matrix after analysis): 86 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(9) (total real/complex workspace to store the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matrix factors after factorization): 255865 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(10) (total integer space store the matrix 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> factors after factorization): 127890 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(11) (order of largest frontal matrix after 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> factorization): 11 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(12) (number of off-diagonal pivots): 19 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(13) (number of delayed pivots after 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> factorization): 8 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(14) (number of memory compress after 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> factorization): 0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(15) (number of steps of iterative refinement 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after solution): 0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(16) (estimated size (in MB) of all MUMPS 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal data for factorization after analysis: value on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most memory consuming processor): 7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(17) (estimated size of all MUMPS internal data 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for factorization after analysis: sum over all processors): 7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(18) (size of all MUMPS internal data allocated 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during factorization: value on the most memory consuming 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processor): 7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(19) (size of all MUMPS internal data allocated 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during factorization: sum over all processors): 7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(20) (estimated number of entries in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> factors): 255801 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(21) (size in MB of memory effectively used 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during factorization - value on the most memory consuming 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processor): 7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(22) (size in MB of memory effectively used 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during factorization - sum over all processors): 7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(23) (after analysis: value of ICNTL(6) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effectively used): 0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(24) (after analysis: value of ICNTL(12) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effectively used): 1 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(25) (after factorization: number of pivots 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modified by static pivoting): 0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(28) (after factorization: number of null pivots 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encountered): 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(29) (after factorization: effective number of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entries in the factors (sum over all processors)): 255865
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(30, 31) (after solution: size in Mbytes of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> memory used during solution phase): 5, 5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(32) (after analysis: type of analysis done): 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(33) (value used for ICNTL(8)): 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         INFOG(34) (exponent of the determinant if determinant 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is requested): 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> linear system matrix = precond matrix:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mat Object:     1 MPI processes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type: seqaij
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rows=15991, cols=15991
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total: nonzeros=223820, allocated nonzeros=431698
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total number of mallocs used during MatSetValues calls =15991
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using I-node routines: found 4000 nodes, limit used is 5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -gideon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Matthew Knepley 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Gideon Simpson 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I finally got a chance to really try using the grid 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sequencing within my code.  I find that, in some cases, even 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it can solve successfully on the coarsest mesh, the SNES 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fails, usually due to a line search failure, when it tries to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compute along the grid sequence.  Would you have any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologize if I have asked before, but can you give me 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -snes_view for the solver? I could not find it in the email 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would suggest trying to fiddle with the line search, or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> precondition it with Richardson. It would be nice to see 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -snes_monitor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the runs that fail, and then we can break down the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> residual into fields and look at it again (if my custom 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> residual monitor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not work we can write one easily). Seeing which part of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the residual does not converge is key to designing the NASM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the problem. I have just seen the virtuoso of this, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xiao-Chuan Cai, present it. We need better monitoring in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PETSc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -gideon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Barry Smith 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Gideon Simpson 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, if i continue in this parameter on the coarse mesh, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can generally solve at all values. I do find that I need to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do some amount of continuation to solve near the endpoint.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that on the coarse mesh, things are not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fully resolved at all the values along the continuation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parameter, and I would like to do refinement.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One subtlety is that I actually want the intermediate 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuation solutions  too.  Currently, without doing any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grid sequence, I compute each, write it to disk, and then 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go on to the next one.  So I now need to go back an refine 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.  I was thinking that perhaps I could refine them on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fly, dump them to disk, and use the coarse solution as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the starting guess at the next iteration, but that would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to require resetting the snes back to the coarse grid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The alternative would be to just script the mesh refinement 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a post processing stage, where each value of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuation is parameter is loaded on the coarse mesh, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refined.  Perhaps that’s the most practical thing to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would do the following. Create your DM and create a SNES 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that will do the continuation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loop over continuation parameter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNESSolve(snes,NULL,Ucoarse);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if (you decide you want to see the refined solution at this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuation point) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     SNESCreate(comm,&snesrefine);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     SNESSetDM()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     SNESSetGridSequence(snesrefine,)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     SNESSolve(snesrefine,0,Ucoarse);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     SNESGetSolution(snesrefine,&Ufine);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     VecView(Ufine or do whatever you want to do with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ufine at that continuation point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     SNESDestroy(snesrefine);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end loop over continuation parameter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -gideon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Barry Smith 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  This problem is actually part of a continuation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem that roughly looks like this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for( continuation parameter p = 0 to 1){
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   solve with parameter p_i using solution from p_{i-1},
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I would like to do is to start the solver, for each 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value of parameter p_i on the coarse mesh, and then do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grid sequencing on that.  But it appears that after doing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grid sequencing on the initial p_0 = 0, the SNES is set 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use the finer mesh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you are using continuation to give you a good enough 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial guess on the coarse level to even get convergence 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the coarse level? First I would check if you even need 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the continuation (or can you not even solve the coarse 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem without it).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do need the continuation then you will need to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweak how you do the grid sequencing. I think this will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not use -snes_grid_sequencing  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Run SNESSolve() as many times as you want with your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuation parameter. This will all happen on the coarse 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mesh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Call SNESSetGridSequence()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then call SNESSolve() again and it will do one solve on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the coarse level and then interpolate to the next level 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What most experimenters take for granted before they begin 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their experiments is infinitely more interesting than any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results to which their experiments lead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Norbert Wiener
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> What most experimenters take for granted before they begin their experiments 
>> is infinitely more interesting than any results to which their experiments 
>> lead.
>> -- Norbert Wiener
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