Wow, quick response! Yes the times still indicate that after 4 levels you get 
no improvement in time.

t = [1.5629e+01 , 6.2692e+00, 5.3451e+00, 5.4948e+00, 5.4940e+00, 5.7643e+00 ]

I'll look more specifically at the numbers to see where the time is being 
transformed tomorrow when I am less drunk. It is a trade off between the work 
saved in the direct solve vs the work needed for the coarser levels in the 
multigrid cycle. 

Try refining the grid a couple more times, likely more levels will still help 
in that case

 Ahh, you should also try -pc_mg_type full


  Barry



> On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:53 PM, Timothée Nicolas <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> OK,
> 
> Richardson is 30-70% faster for these tests, but other than this I don't see 
> any change.
> 
> Timothee
> 
> 
> 
> 2015-10-15 12:37 GMT+09:00 Barry Smith <[email protected]>:
> 
>   Timothee,
> 
>      Thank you for reporting this issue, it is indeed disturbing and could be 
> due to a performance regression we may have introduced by being too clever 
> for our own good. Could you please rerun with the additional option 
> -mg_levels_ksp_type richardson and send the same output?
> 
>    Thanks
> 
>   Barry
> 
> > On Oct 14, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Timothée Nicolas <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Barry for pointing this out. Indeed on a system with no debugging 
> > the Jacobian evaluations no longer dominate the time (less than 10%). 
> > However the rest is similar, except the improvement from 2 to 3 levels is 
> > much better. Still it saturates after levels=3. I understand it in terms of 
> > CPU time thanks to Matthew's explanations, however what surprises me more 
> > is that KSP iterations are not more efficient. At the least, even if it 
> > takes more time to have more levels because of memory issues, I would 
> > expect KSP iterations to converge more rapidly with more levels, but it is 
> > not the case as you can see. Probably there is also a rationale behind this 
> > but I cannot see easily.
> >
> > I send the new outputs
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Timothee
> >
> > 2015-10-15 3:02 GMT+09:00 Barry Smith <[email protected]>:
> > 1) Your timings are meaningless! You cannot compare timings when built with 
> > all debugging on, PERIOD!
> >
> >   ##########################################################
> >       #                                                        #
> >       #                          WARNING!!!                    #
> >       #                                                        #
> >       #   This code was compiled with a debugging option,      #
> >       #   To get timing results run ./configure                #
> >       #   using --with-debugging=no, the performance will      #
> >       #   be generally two or three times faster.              #
> >       #                                                        #
> >       ##########################################################
> >
> > 2) Please run with -snes_view .
> >
> > 3) Note that with 7 levels
> >
> > SNESJacobianEval      21 1.0 2.4364e+01 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 0.0e+00 0.0e+00 
> > 0.0e+00 54  0  0  0  0  54  0  0  0  0     0
> >
> > with 2 levels
> >
> > SNESJacobianEval       6 1.0 2.2441e+01 1.0 0.00e+00 0.0 0.0e+00 0.0e+00 
> > 0.0e+00 34  0  0  0  0  34  0  0  0  0     0
> >
> >
> > The Jacobian evaluation is dominating the time! Likely if you fix the 
> > debugging this will be less the case
> >
> >   Barry
> >
> > > On Oct 13, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Timothée Nicolas 
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I have been playing around with multigrid recently, namely with 
> > > /ksp/ksp/examples/tutorials/ex42.c, with /snes/examples/tutorial/ex5.c 
> > > and with my own implementation of a laplacian type problem. In all cases, 
> > > I have noted no improvement whatsoever in the performance, whether in CPU 
> > > time or KSP iteration, by varying the number of levels of the multigrid 
> > > solver. As an example, I have attached the log_summary for ex5.c with 
> > > nlevels = 2 to 7, launched by
> > >
> > > mpiexec -n 1 ./ex5 -da_grid_x 21 -da_grid_y 21 -ksp_rtol 1.0e-9 
> > > -da_refine 6 -pc_type mg -pc_mg_levels # -snes_monitor -ksp_monitor 
> > > -log_summary
> > >
> > > where -pc_mg_levels is set to a number between 2 and 7.
> > >
> > > So there is a noticeable CPU time improvement from 2 levels to 3 levels 
> > > (30%), and then no improvement whatsoever. I am surprised because with 6 
> > > levels of refinement of the DMDA the fine grid has more than 1200 points 
> > > so with 3 levels the coarse grid still has more than 300 points which is 
> > > still pretty large (I assume the ratio between grids is 2). I am 
> > > wondering how the coarse solver efficiently solves the problem on the 
> > > coarse grid with such a large number of points ? Given the principle of 
> > > multigrid which is to erase the smooth part of the error with relaxation 
> > > methods, which are usually efficient only for high frequency, I would 
> > > expect optimal performance when the coarse grid is basically just a few 
> > > points in each direction. Does anyone know why the performance saturates 
> > > at low number of levels ? Basically what happens internally seems to be 
> > > quite different from what I would expect...
> > >
> > > Best
> > >
> > > Timothee
> > > <ex5_2_levels_of_multigrid.log><ex5_3_levels_of_multigrid.log><ex5_4_levels_of_multigrid.log><ex5_5_levels_of_multigrid.log><ex5_6_levels_of_multigrid.log><ex5_7_levels_of_multigrid.log>
> >
> >
> > <ex5_2_multigrid_levels.log><ex5_3_multigrid_levels.log><ex5_4_multigrid_levels.log><ex5_5_multigrid_levels.log><ex5_6_multigrid_levels.log><ex5_7_multigrid_levels.log>
> 
> 
> <ex5_2_multigrid_levels_richardson.log><ex5_3_multigrid_levels_richardson.log><ex5_4_multigrid_levels_richardson.log><ex5_5_multigrid_levels_richardson.log><ex5_6_multigrid_levels_richardson.log><ex5_7_multigrid_levels_richardson.log>

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