Dang, you are right. 

  It could be there, some of the code to write it could be stolen from the 
PCSOR that does handle a generic size N block.

  Barry

> On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:54 PM, Ben Yee <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Oh, I could be mistaken, but I don't think the PCApply_PBJacobi_N() function 
> is in the master branch of petsc.  (At least, it's not in the pbjacobi.c file 
> that I downloaded for petsc-3.7.6)  I did a quick search and found it in this 
> old mat-taij branch: https://bitbucket.org/petsc/petsc/branch/debo/mat-taij . 
>  Is this the function you were referring to?
> 
> Regarding the block density, I think the matrix is relatively diagonally 
> dominant, but the density is generally a bit higher than 30%.  The blocks are 
> of the same size.  I think you're right that the factorization is faster, I 
> will try the factorization first.  However, I am concerned about the memory 
> cost of the factorizing all of the blocks for problems with a large number of 
> equations, so I think I may have to resort to an iterative solver or doing 
> Gaussian elimination in those cases.  
> 
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:10 PM, Ben Yee <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for your detailed response!
> >
> > In my case, the number of equations (the block size) depends on the user 
> > input (there is one equation per energy group, and the number of groups 
> > depends on how the user wants to discretize the energy variable).  It 
> > typically is around 50, but can be as high as a few hundred.  In 
> > pbjacobi.c, it seems that it is hard-coded to work for a fixed block size 
> > N, but I would like it to work for general N.  Moreover, I would like to 
> > solve the blocks iteratively (using SOR for example) since the block sizes 
> > can get rather large.
> >
> > I haven't tried this yet, but it seems that it wouldn't be too hard to 
> > modify what you have suggested to work as I have described above.  I could 
> > add an extra PetscBool to pbjacobi that indicates that I want to use my own 
> > PCApply_PBJacobi which would work for general block size N.   And, in that 
> > function, instead of applying a stored inverse block, I could implement SOR 
> > iterations.
> 
>    There is a general PCApply_PBJacobi_N() you can start with no need for a 
> bool.
> 
>    Almost for sure if the blocks are more than 30% full you will do better to 
> to do the factorization and inversion and NOT do SOR. How dense are your 
> blocks?  I am assuming each block is of the same size?
> 
> 
>    Barry
> 
> >
> > Does that sound like a good plan, or do you suggest an alternative approach?
> >
> > Thanks again for your help on this!
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >   Ok, you should be using the BAIJ matrix it supports point-block Jacobi 
> > and point-block Gauss-Seidel.
> >
> >    We do not have a red-black Jacobi/Gauss-Seidel but you could easily add 
> > it. You will add it, not by using a any shell objects but by adding 
> > functionality to the PCPBJACOBI code in PETSc which is in 
> > src/ksp/pc/impls/pbjacobi/pbjacobi.c
> >
> >    First you will need to add a routine to supply the colors (make it 
> > general for any number of colors since the code is basically the same as 
> > for only two colors) call it say
> >
> >    PCPBJacobiSetColors(PC pc,PetscInt number of colors, PetscInt 
> > *sizeofeachcolor, PetscInt **idsforeachcolor);
> >
> >   you will have to add additional fields in PC_PBJacobi to contain this 
> > information.
> >
> >   Then copy the static PetscErrorCode PCApply_PBJacobi_N(PC pc,Vec x,Vec y) 
> >  for your block size N (for example 3) and modify it to do what you want, 
> > so for example
> >
> > static PetscErrorCode PCApply_PBJacobi_2_Color(PC pc,Vec x,Vec y)
> > {
> >   PC_PBJacobi     *jac = (PC_PBJacobi*)pc->data;
> >   PetscErrorCode  ierr;
> >   PetscInt        i,m = jac->mbs;
> >   const MatScalar *diag = jac->diag;
> >   PetscScalar     x0,x1,*yy;
> >   const PetscScalar *xx;
> >
> >   PetscFunctionBegin;
> >   if (!jac->b) {
> >      ierr = VecDuplicate(x,&jac->b);
> >      ierr = VecDuplicate(x,&jac->work);
> >   }
> >
> >   ierr = VecCopy(x,b);CHKERRQ(ierr);
> >   for (j=0; j<jac->numberofcolors; j++) {
> >
> >   ierr = VecGetArrayRead(b,&xx);CHKERRQ(ierr);
> >   ierr = VecGetArray(y,&yy);CHKERRQ(ierr);
> >
> >   for (i=0; i<jac->sizeofeachcolor[j]; i++) {
> >     ii = jac->idsforeachcolor[j][i];
> >     diag = jac->diag + 4*ii;
> >     x0        = xx[2*ii]; x1 = xx[2*ii+1];
> >     yy[2*ii]   = diag[0]*x0 + diag[2]*x1;
> >     yy[2*ii+1] = diag[1]*x0 + diag[3]*x1;
> >   }
> >   ierr = VecRestoreArrayRead(b,&xx);CHKERRQ(ierr);
> >   ierr = VecRestoreArray(y,&yy);CHKERRQ(ierr);
> >
> >   /* update residual */
> >   if (i < jac->sizeofeachcolor[j]-1) {
> >      ierr = MatMult(pc->matrix,y,work2);
> >      ierr = VecAYPX(b,-1,work1);
> >   }
> >   }
> >
> >   PetscFunctionReturn(0);
> > }
> >
> >   Finally in PCSetUp_PBJacobi() you would set the apply function pointer to 
> > the "color" version if the user has provided the coloring information.
> >
> >   Pretty simple.
> >
> >   Barry
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 29, 2017, at 6:47 PM, Ben Yee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm solving a coupled set of equations, so each "block" corresponds to a 
> > > set of unknowns for a particular spatial cell.  The matrix is structured 
> > > such that all of the unknowns for a given spatial cell have adjacent 
> > > global matrix indices (i.e., they're next to each other in the global 
> > > solution vector).  Effectively, I want to do red-black Gauss Seidel, but 
> > > with blocks.  Alternatively, it's the same as applying block Jacobi for 
> > > all the red cells and then applying block Jacobi for all the black cells.
> > >
> > > The color of the block is determined from the geometry of the problem 
> > > which is stored in various structures in the code I'm working on, 
> > > independent of petsc.  (Physically, I generally have a nice 3d cartesian 
> > > spatial grid and the coloring is just a checkerboard in that case.)
> > >
> > > The reason I want to do this is for research purposes.  I've implemented 
> > > my own interpolation matrices for PCMG, and, in my simpler 1d codes and 
> > > convergence analyses, I've found that doing a red-black smoothing 
> > > significantly improved convergence for my particular problem (though I'm 
> > > aware that this generally leads to poor cache efficiency).
> > >
> > > On Aug 29, 2017 7:33 PM, "Barry Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >   Ben,
> > >
> > >    Please explain more what you mean by "a red-black block Jacobi 
> > > smoother". What is your matrix structure? What are the blocks? How do you 
> > > decide which ones are which color?  Why do you wish to use some a 
> > > smoother.
> > >
> > >   Barry
> > >
> > > > On Aug 29, 2017, at 6:19 PM, Ben Yee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > For the smoother in PCMG, I want to use a red-black block Jacobi 
> > > > smoother.  Is this available with the existing PETSc options?  If so, 
> > > > how do I designate which blocks are red and which are black?
> > > >
> > > > If it is not possible, what would be the best way to implement this?  
> > > > Would I use KSPRICHARDSON+PCSHELL?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ben Yee
> > > >
> > > > NERS PhD Candidate, University of Michigan
> > > > B.S. Mech. & Nuclear Eng., U.C. Berkeley
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ben Yee
> >
> > NERS PhD Candidate, University of Michigan
> > B.S. Mech. & Nuclear Eng., U.C. Berkeley
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ben Yee
> 
> NERS PhD Candidate, University of Michigan
> B.S. Mech. & Nuclear Eng., U.C. Berkeley

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