Fande claimed 49a781f5cee36db85e8d5b951eec29f10ac13593 made a difference. [so assuming same hypre version was used before and after this commit - for this bisection]
So the extra MPI_Comm_dup() calls due to MATHYPRE must be pushing the total communicators over the limit. And wrt debugging - perhaps we need to check MPI_Comm_free() aswell? Presumably freed communicators can get reused so we have to look for outstanding/unfreed communicators? Per message below - MPICH[?] provides a max of 2048 communicators. And there is some discussion of this issue at: https://lists.mpich.org/pipermail/discuss/2012-December/000148.html And wrt 'sharing' - I was thining in terms of: Can one use MPI_COMM_WORLD with all hypre objects we create? If so - we could somehow attach one more inner-comm - that could be obtained and reused with multiple hypre objects [that got created off the same petsc_comm?] Satish On Tue, 3 Apr 2018, Smith, Barry F. wrote: > > Each external package definitely needs its own duplicated communicator; > cannot share between packages. > > The only problem with the dups below is if they are in a loop and get > called many times. > > To debug the hypre/duplication issue in MOOSE I would run in the debugger > with a break point in MPI_Comm_dup() and see > who keeps calling it an unreasonable amount of times. (My guess is this is a > new "feature" in hypre that they will need to fix but only debugging will > tell) > > Barry > > > > On Apr 2, 2018, at 7:44 PM, Balay, Satish <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > We do a MPI_Comm_dup() for objects related to externalpackages. > > > > Looks like we added a new mat type MATHYPRE - in 3.8 that PCHYPRE is > > using. Previously there was one MPI_Comm_dup() PCHYPRE - now I think > > is one more for MATHYPRE - so more calls to MPI_Comm_dup in 3.8 vs 3.7 > > > > src/dm/impls/da/hypre/mhyp.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(PetscObjectComm((PetscObject)B),&(ex->hcomm));CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/dm/impls/da/hypre/mhyp.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(PetscObjectComm((PetscObject)B),&(ex->hcomm));CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/dm/impls/swarm/data_ex.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(comm,&d->comm);CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/ksp/pc/impls/hypre/hypre.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(PetscObjectComm((PetscObject)pc),&(jac->comm_hypre));CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/ksp/pc/impls/hypre/hypre.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(PetscObjectComm((PetscObject)pc),&(ex->hcomm));CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/ksp/pc/impls/hypre/hypre.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(PetscObjectComm((PetscObject)pc),&(ex->hcomm));CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/ksp/pc/impls/spai/ispai.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(PetscObjectComm((PetscObject)pc),&(ispai->comm_spai));CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/mat/examples/tests/ex152.c: ierr = MPI_Comm_dup(MPI_COMM_WORLD, > > &comm);CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/mat/impls/aij/mpi/mkl_cpardiso/mkl_cpardiso.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(PetscObjectComm((PetscObject)A),&(mat_mkl_cpardiso->comm_mkl_cpardiso));CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/mat/impls/aij/mpi/mumps/mumps.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(PetscObjectComm((PetscObject)A),&(mumps->comm_mumps));CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/mat/impls/aij/mpi/pastix/pastix.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(PetscObjectComm((PetscObject)A),&(lu->pastix_comm));CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/mat/impls/aij/mpi/superlu_dist/superlu_dist.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(PetscObjectComm((PetscObject)A),&(lu->comm_superlu));CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/mat/impls/hypre/mhypre.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(PetscObjectComm((PetscObject)B),&hB->comm);CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/mat/partition/impls/pmetis/pmetis.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(pcomm,&comm);CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/sys/mpiuni/mpi.c: MPI_COMM_SELF, MPI_COMM_WORLD, and a > > MPI_Comm_dup() of each of these (duplicates of duplicates return the same > > communictor) > > src/sys/mpiuni/mpi.c:int MPI_Comm_dup(MPI_Comm comm,MPI_Comm *out) > > src/sys/objects/pinit.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(MPI_COMM_WORLD,&local_comm);CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/sys/objects/pinit.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(MPI_COMM_WORLD,&local_comm);CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/sys/objects/tagm.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(comm_in,comm_out);CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/sys/utils/mpiu.c: ierr = MPI_Comm_dup(comm,&local_comm);CHKERRQ(ierr); > > src/ts/impls/implicit/sundials/sundials.c: ierr = > > MPI_Comm_dup(PetscObjectComm((PetscObject)ts),&(cvode->comm_sundials));CHKERRQ(ierr); > > > > Perhaps we need a PetscCommDuplicateExternalPkg() to somehow avoid these > > MPI_Comm_dup() calls? > > > > Satish > > > > On Tue, 3 Apr 2018, Smith, Barry F. wrote: > > > >> > >> Are we sure this is a PETSc comm issue and not a hypre comm duplication > >> issue > >> > >> frame #6: 0x00000001061345d9 > >> libpetsc.3.07.dylib`hypre_GenerateSubComm(comm=-1006627852, > >> participate=<unavailable>, new_comm_ptr=<unavailable>) + 409 at > >> gen_redcs_mat.c:531 [opt] > >> > >> Looks like hypre is needed to generate subcomms, perhaps it generates too > >> many? > >> > >> Barry > >> > >> > >>> On Apr 2, 2018, at 7:07 PM, Derek Gaston <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> I’m working with Fande on this and I would like to add a bit more. There > >>> are many circumstances where we aren’t working on COMM_WORLD at all (e.g. > >>> working on a sub-communicator) but PETSc was initialized using > >>> MPI_COMM_WORLD (think multi-level solves)… and we need to create > >>> arbitrarily many PETSc vecs/mats/solvers/preconditioners and solve. We > >>> definitely can’t rely on using PETSC_COMM_WORLD to avoid triggering > >>> duplication. > >>> > >>> Can you explain why PETSc needs to duplicate the communicator so much? > >>> > >>> Thanks for your help in tracking this down! > >>> > >>> Derek > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:44 PM Kong, Fande <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> Why we do not use user-level MPI communicators directly? What are > >>> potential risks here? > >>> > >>> > >>> Fande, > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:08 PM, Satish Balay <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> PETSC_COMM_WORLD [via PetscCommDuplicate()] attempts to minimize calls to > >>> MPI_Comm_dup() - thus potentially avoiding such errors > >>> > >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mcs.anl.gov_petsc_petsc-2Dcurrent_docs_manualpages_Sys_PetscCommDuplicate.html&d=DwIBAg&c=54IZrppPQZKX9mLzcGdPfFD1hxrcB__aEkJFOKJFd00&r=DUUt3SRGI0_JgtNaS3udV68GRkgV4ts7XKfj2opmiCY&m=jgv7gpZ3K52d_FWMgkK9yEScbLA7pkrWydFuJnYflsU&s=_zpWRcyk3kHuEHoq02NDqYExnXIohXpNnjyabYnnDjU&e= > >>> > >>> > >>> Satish > >>> > >>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2018, Kong, Fande wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Satish Balay <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Does this 'standard test' use MPI_COMM_WORLD' to crate PETSc objects? > >>>>> > >>>>> If so - you could try changing to PETSC_COMM_WORLD > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I do not think we are using PETSC_COMM_WORLD when creating PETSc objects. > >>>> Why we can not use MPI_COMM_WORLD? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Fande, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Satish > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2018, Kong, Fande wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am trying to upgrade PETSc from 3.7.6 to 3.8.3 for MOOSE and its > >>>>>> applications. I have a error message for a standard test: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> *preconditioners/pbp.lots_of_variables: MPI had an > >>>>>> errorpreconditioners/pbp.lots_of_variables: > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ > >>>>> preconditioners/pbp.lots_of_variables: > >>>>>> Other MPI error, error stack:preconditioners/pbp.lots_of_variables: > >>>>>> PMPI_Comm_dup(177)..................: MPI_Comm_dup(comm=0x84000001, > >>>>>> new_comm=0x97d1068) failedpreconditioners/pbp.lots_of_variables: > >>>>>> PMPI_Comm_dup(162)..................: > >>>>>> preconditioners/pbp.lots_of_variables: > >>>>>> MPIR_Comm_dup_impl(57)..............: > >>>>>> preconditioners/pbp.lots_of_variables: > >>>>>> MPIR_Comm_copy(739).................: > >>>>>> preconditioners/pbp.lots_of_variables: > >>>>>> MPIR_Get_contextid_sparse_group(614): Too many communicators (0/2048 > >>>>> free > >>>>>> on this process; ignore_id=0)* > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I did "git bisect', and the following commit introduces this issue: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> *commit 49a781f5cee36db85e8d5b951eec29f10ac13593Author: Stefano Zampini > >>>>>> <[email protected] <[email protected]>>Date: Sat Nov > >>>>>> 5 > >>>>>> 20:15:19 2016 +0300 PCHYPRE: use internal Mat of type MatHYPRE > >>>>>> hpmat already stores two HYPRE vectors* > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Before I debug line-by-line, anyone has a clue on this? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fande, > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >
