Are there any plans to get the missing hook into PETSc for AIR? Just curious if 
there’s an issue I can subscribe to or anything.

(Independently I’m excited to test HPDDM out tomorrow)

> On Apr 13, 2023, at 10:29 PM, Pierre Jolivet <pierre.joli...@lip6.fr> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2023, at 7:02 AM, Alexander Lindsay <alexlindsay...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pierre,
>> 
>> This is very helpful information. Thank you. Yes I would appreciate those 
>> command line options if you’re willing to share!
> 
> No problem, I’ll get in touch with you in private first, because it may 
> require some extra work (need a couple of extra options in PETSc 
> ./configure), and this is not very related to the problem at hand, so best 
> not to spam the mailing list.
> 
> Thanks,
> Pierre
> 
>>>> On Apr 13, 2023, at 9:54 PM, Pierre Jolivet <pierre.joli...@lip6.fr> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 13 Apr 2023, at 10:33 PM, Alexander Lindsay <alexlindsay...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, I'm trying to solve steady Navier-Stokes for different Reynolds 
>>>> numbers. My options table
>>>> 
>>>> -dm_moose_fieldsplit_names u,p
>>>> -dm_moose_nfieldsplits 2
>>>> -fieldsplit_p_dm_moose_vars pressure
>>>> -fieldsplit_p_ksp_type preonly
>>>> -fieldsplit_p_pc_type jacobi
>>>> -fieldsplit_u_dm_moose_vars vel_x,vel_y
>>>> -fieldsplit_u_ksp_type preonly
>>>> -fieldsplit_u_pc_hypre_type boomeramg
>>>> -fieldsplit_u_pc_type hypre
>>>> -pc_fieldsplit_schur_fact_type full
>>>> -pc_fieldsplit_schur_precondition selfp
>>>> -pc_fieldsplit_type schur
>>>> -pc_type fieldsplit
>>>> 
>>>> works wonderfully for a low Reynolds number of 2.2. The solver performance 
>>>> crushes LU as I scale up the problem. However, not surprisingly this 
>>>> options table struggles when I bump the Reynolds number to 220. I've read 
>>>> that use of AIR (approximate ideal restriction) can improve performance 
>>>> for advection dominated problems. I've tried setting 
>>>> -pc_hypre_boomeramg_restriction_type 1 for a simple diffusion problem and 
>>>> the option works fine. However, when applying it to my field-split 
>>>> preconditioned Navier-Stokes system, I get immediate non-convergence:
>>>> 
>>>>  0 Nonlinear |R| = 1.033077e+03
>>>>       0 Linear |R| = 1.033077e+03
>>>>   Linear solve did not converge due to DIVERGED_NANORINF iterations 0
>>>> Nonlinear solve did not converge due to DIVERGED_LINEAR_SOLVE iterations 0
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have an idea as to why this might be happening?
>>> 
>>> Do not use this option, even when not part of PCFIELDSPLIT.
>>> There is some missing plumbing in PETSc which makes it unusable, see Ben’s 
>>> comment here 
>>> https://github.com/hypre-space/hypre/issues/764#issuecomment-1353452417.
>>> In fact, it’s quite easy to make HYPRE generate NaN with a very simple 
>>> stabilized convection—diffusion problem near the pure convection limit 
>>> (something that ℓAIR is supposed to handle).
>>> Even worse, you can make HYPRE fill your terminal with printf-style 
>>> debugging messages 
>>> https://github.com/hypre-space/hypre/blob/5546cc22d46b3dba253849f258786da47c9a7b21/src/parcsr_ls/par_lr_restr.c#L1416
>>>  with this option turned on.
>>> As a result, I have been unable to reproduce any of the ℓAIR results.
>>> This also explains why I have been using plain BoomerAMG instead of ℓAIR 
>>> for the comparison in page 9 of https://arxiv.org/pdf/2201.02250.pdf (if 
>>> you would like to try the PC we are using, I could send you the command 
>>> line options).
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pierre
>>> 
>>>> If not, I'd take a suggestion on where to set a breakpoint to start my own 
>>>> investigation. Alternatively, I welcome other preconditioning suggestions 
>>>> for an advection dominated problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Alex
>>> 
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