> On 3 Nov 2023, at 7:28 PM, Victoria Rolandi <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Pierre, 
> 
> Sure, I have now installed PETSc with MUMPS and  PT-SCHOTCH, I got some 
> errors at the beginning but then it worked adding 
> --COPTFLAGS="-D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L" to the configuration. 
> Also, I have compilation errors when I try to use newer versions, so I kept 
> the 3.17.0 for the moment.

You should ask for assistance to get the latest version.
(Par)METIS snapshots may have not changed, but the MUMPS one did, with 
performance improvements.

> Now the parallel ordering works with PT-SCOTCH, however, is it normal that I 
> do not see any difference in the performance compared to sequential ordering 
> ? 

Impossible to tell without you providing actual figures (number of nnz, number 
of processes, timings with sequential ordering, etc.), but 699k is not that big 
of a problem, so that is not extremely surprising.

> Also, could the error using Metis/Parmetis be due to the fact that my main 
> code (to which I linked PETSc) uses a different ParMetis than the one 
> separately installed by PETSC during the configuration?

Yes.

> Hence should I configure PETSc linking ParMetis to the same library used by 
> my main code?    

Yes.

Thanks,
Pierre

> Thanks,
> Victoria 
> 
> Il giorno gio 2 nov 2023 alle ore 09:35 Pierre Jolivet <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto:
>> 
>>> On 2 Nov 2023, at 5:29 PM, Victoria Rolandi <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Pierre, 
>>> Yes, sorry, I'll keep the list in copy.
>>> Launching with those options (-mat_mumps_icntl_28 2 -mat_mumps_icntl_29 2) 
>>> I get an error during the analysis step. I also launched increasing the 
>>> memory and I still have the error.
>> 
>> Oh, OK, that’s bad.
>> Would you be willing to give SCOTCH and/or PT-SCOTCH a try?
>> You’d need to reconfigure/recompile with --download-ptscotch (and maybe 
>> --download-bison depending on your system).
>> Then, the option would become either -mat_mumps_icntl_28 2 
>> -mat_mumps_icntl_29 2 (PT-SCOTCH) or -mat_mumps_icntl_7 3 (SCOTCH).
>> It may be worth updating PETSc as well (you are using 3.17.0, we are at 
>> 3.20.1), though I’m not sure we updated the METIS/ParMETIS snapshots since 
>> then, so it may not fix the present issue.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Pierre
>> 
>>> The calculations stops at :
>>> 
>>> Entering CMUMPS 5.4.1 from C interface with JOB, N =   1      699150
>>>       executing #MPI =      2, without OMP
>>> 
>>>  =================================================
>>>  MUMPS compiled with option -Dmetis
>>>  MUMPS compiled with option -Dparmetis
>>>  =================================================
>>> L U Solver for unsymmetric matrices
>>> Type of parallelism: Working host
>>> 
>>>  ****** ANALYSIS STEP ********
>>> 
>>>  ** Maximum transversal (ICNTL(6)) not allowed because matrix is distributed
>>>  Using ParMETIS for parallel ordering
>>>  Structural symmetry is: 90%
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The error:
>>> 
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 11 SEGV: Segmentation Violation, 
>>> probably memory access out of range
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or -on_error_attach_debugger
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: or see https://petsc.org/release/faq/#valgrind
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: or try http://valgrind.org <http://valgrind.org/> on 
>>> GNU/linux and Apple MacOS to find memory corruption errors
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: configure using --with-debugging=yes, recompile, link, and 
>>> run
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: to get more information on the crash.
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: --------------------- Error Message 
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Signal received
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: See https://petsc.org/release/faq/ for trouble shooting.
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 3.17.0, unknown
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: ./charlin.exe on a  named n1056 by vrolandi Wed Nov  1 
>>> 11:38:28 2023
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Configure options 
>>> --prefix=/u/home/v/vrolandi/CODES/LIBRARY/packages/petsc/installationDir 
>>> --with-cc=mpiicc --with-cxx=mpiicpc --with-fc=mpiifort CXXOPTFLAGS=-O3 
>>> --with-scalar-type=complex --with-debugging=0 --with-precision=single 
>>> --download-mumps --download-scalapack --download-parmetis --download-metis
>>> 
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: #1 User provided function() at unknown file:0
>>> [0]PETSC ERROR: Run with -malloc_debug to check if memory corruption is 
>>> causing the crash.
>>> Abort(59) on node 0 (rank 0 in comm 0): application called 
>>> MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, 59) - process 0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> Victoria 
>>> 
>>> Il giorno mer 1 nov 2023 alle ore 10:33 Pierre Jolivet <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto:
>>>> Victoria, please keep the list in copy.
>>>> 
>>>>> I am not understanding how can I switch to ParMetis if it does not appear 
>>>>> in the options of -mat_mumps_icntl_7.In the options I only have Metis and 
>>>>> not ParMetis.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You need to use -mat_mumps_icntl_28 2 -mat_mumps_icntl_29 2
>>>> 
>>>> Barry, I don’t think we can programmatically shut off this warning, it’s 
>>>> guarded by a bunch of KEEP() values, see src/dana_driver.F:4707, which are 
>>>> only settable/gettable by people with access to consortium releases.
>>>> I’ll ask the MUMPS people for confirmation.
>>>> Note that this warning is only printed to screen with the option 
>>>> -mat_mumps_icntl_4 2 (or higher), so this won’t show up for standard runs.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Pierre
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 Nov 2023, at 5:52 PM, Barry Smith <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Pierre,
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Could the PETSc MUMPS interface "turn-off" ICNTL(6) in this situation 
>>>>> so as to not trigger the confusing warning message from MUMPS?
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Barry
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 1, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Pierre Jolivet <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2023, at 3:33 PM, Zhang, Hong via petsc-users 
>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Victoria,
>>>>>>> "** Maximum transversal (ICNTL(6)) not allowed because matrix is 
>>>>>>> distributed
>>>>>>> Ordering based on METIS"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This warning is benign and appears for every run using a sequential 
>>>>>> partitioner in MUMPS with a MATMPIAIJ.
>>>>>> (I’m not saying switching to ParMETIS will not make the issue go away)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Pierre
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> $ ../../../../arch-darwin-c-debug-real/bin/mpirun -n 2 ./ex2 -pc_type lu 
>>>>>> -mat_mumps_icntl_4 2
>>>>>> Entering DMUMPS 5.6.2 from C interface with JOB, N =   1          56
>>>>>>       executing #MPI =      2, without OMP
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  =================================================
>>>>>>  MUMPS compiled with option -Dmetis
>>>>>>  MUMPS compiled with option -Dparmetis
>>>>>>  MUMPS compiled with option -Dpord
>>>>>>  MUMPS compiled with option -Dptscotch
>>>>>>  MUMPS compiled with option -Dscotch
>>>>>>  =================================================
>>>>>> L U Solver for unsymmetric matrices
>>>>>> Type of parallelism: Working host
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  ****** ANALYSIS STEP ********
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  ** Maximum transversal (ICNTL(6)) not allowed because matrix is 
>>>>>> distributed
>>>>>>  Processing a graph of size:        56 with           194 edges
>>>>>>  Ordering based on AMF 
>>>>>>  WARNING: Largest root node of size        26 not selected for parallel 
>>>>>> execution
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Leaving analysis phase with  ...
>>>>>>  INFOG(1)                                       =               0
>>>>>>  INFOG(2)                                       =               0
>>>>>> […]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Try parmetis.
>>>>>>> Hong
>>>>>>> From: petsc-users <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Victoria Rolandi 
>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 10:30 PM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>> Subject: [petsc-users] Error using Metis with PETSc installed with MUMPS
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hi, 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm solving a large sparse linear system in parallel and I am using 
>>>>>>> PETSc with MUMPS. I am trying to test different options, like the 
>>>>>>> ordering of the matrix. Everything works if I use the 
>>>>>>> -mat_mumps_icntl_7 2  or -mat_mumps_icntl_7 0 options (with the first 
>>>>>>> one, AMF, performing better than AMD), however when I test METIS 
>>>>>>> -mat_mumps_icntl_7 5 I get an error (reported at the end of the email).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have configured PETSc with the following options: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --with-cc=mpiicc --with-cxx=mpiicpc --with-fc=mpiifort  
>>>>>>> --with-scalar-type=complex --with-debugging=0 --with-precision=single 
>>>>>>> --download-mumps --download-scalapack --download-parmetis 
>>>>>>> --download-metis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and the installation didn't give any problems.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Could you help me understand why metis is not working? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>>>> Victoria 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Error:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  ****** ANALYSIS STEP ********
>>>>>>>  ** Maximum transversal (ICNTL(6)) not allowed because matrix is 
>>>>>>> distributed
>>>>>>>  Processing a graph of size:    699150 with      69238690 edges
>>>>>>>  Ordering based on METIS
>>>>>>> 510522 37081376 [100] [10486 699150]
>>>>>>> Error! Unknown CType: -1
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

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