Dear Pierre, Dear PETSc team,

Thank you for your response.

In terms of geometry, we are moving toward more complex domains with more 
refined meshes that include multiple thin channels. We have been experimenting 
with the Stokes problem as a simplified case, but our main goal is to solve the 
high-Reynolds-number Navier–Stokes equations in these settings.

We are currently planning to utilize a multi-node CPU architecture.

For the Navier–Stokes system, we have experimented with both 
pressure-convection diffusion (PCD) and LSC preconditioners. In the thin 
channels, the PDC struggles to converge, and the LSC preconditioner is 
computationally slow, but it does converge eventually. Also, for both of these 
preconditioners for the thin channels, the norm of the preconditioned residual 
is much higher than the true residual norm, which likely indicates that neither 
preconditioner provides a sufficiently accurate approximation of the Schur 
complement.

I would appreciate any insights you may have for better preconditioning 
strategies.

Best regards,
Hardik



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Date: Sunday, 11 May 2025 at 20:45
To: Hardik Kothari <hardik.koth...@corintis.com>
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Subject: Re: [petsc-users] Solving Stokes problem in high aspect ratio domains

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Do you want to refine the geometry or are you fine with the current one?
What kind of hardware are you planning on using (GPU, single-node…)?
Do you have a configuration for which LSC fails or does not give you 
good-enough performance?

Thanks,
Pierre


On 9 May 2025, at 9:08 PM, Mark Adams <mfad...@lbl.gov> wrote:

Hi Hardik,

The domain shape is not critical but the element shapes are. Your 100:1 domain 
aspect ratio is bad if you have N^3 mesh and thus element aspect ratios of 
100:1.
If that is the case then you probably want to look at semi-coarsening multigrid.

Mark

On Fri, May 9, 2025 at 9:55 AM Hardik Kothari 
<hardik.koth...@corintis.com<mailto:hardik.koth...@corintis.com>> wrote:
Dear PETSc team,

We are solving the Stokes equations using PETSc (via Firedrake) on a highly 
anisotropic 3D domain (L_x=1, L_y=0.01, L_z=0.1).

In this setup, standard Schur complement preconditioners using a mass inverse 
for pressure struggle to converge. We could solve the problem with the LSC 
preconditioner (solver parameters are shown in the script).

We have the following questions:

 *   Why standard preconditioners struggle in such domains?
 *   Why is the preconditioned residual norm for the Schur complement system 
much higher than the true residual norm?
 *   Would you recommend alternative or more robust preconditioners for such 
geometries?

Thank you for your help.

Best regards,
Hardik



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